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Override provider: does BT still impose connection-charge?

Hello, All,

Can anyone say that when using an override-provider on a BT line one pays only the o'-provider's connection-charge and nothing to BT, please?

(I would check my BT-bills but they are not to hand, for which I apologize.)

Thank you,


AF.
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  • LazyTyper
    LazyTyper Posts: 372 Forumite
    AllFumbs wrote: »
    Hello, All,

    Can anyone say that when using an override-provider on a BT line one pays only the o'-provider's connection-charge and nothing to BT, please?

    (I would check my BT-bills but they are not to hand, for which I apologize.)

    Thank you,


    AF.

    Not sure what you mean by "override-provider", but the Post Office normally do free line connection.

    Check out http://www.postoffice.co.uk/home-phone
  • I think the question is about calls made using an indirect access provider like 18185 on a BT line. The answer is BT will not make a connection charge or a per minute charge. You will only be billed by the indirect access provider.

    You will be charged by BT if you use a dial through provider with, for example, a 0844 prefix.

    OFCOM has now removed the obligation on BT to connect calls through indirect access providers, so the facility may disappear.

    I don't understand the relevance of Post Office Homephone, except that I saw a comment today that it had vastly increase the price of calss to 0844 and 0843 numbers, so making calls through dial through providers would be uneconomic.
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    edited 12 August 2014 at 7:43PM
    AllFumbs wrote: »
    Hello, All,

    Can anyone say that when using an override-provider on a BT line one pays only the o'-provider's connection-charge and nothing to BT, please?

    (I would check my BT-bills but they are not to hand, for which I apologize.)

    Thank you,


    AF.

    Depends on what type of override access number you are using.

    Short code eg 1899 goes indirectly cant be charged by BT anyway.

    0800/0808 free from BT Landline charges.

    Other numbers would incur a service charge ,unless you have inclusive minutes which cover them.

    From the 26/6/ 2015, all users of 084, 087 and 09 numbers will have to state their Service Charge wherever they advertise their number thus making it clear they are financially gaining from the call. Hopefully this should cause many of the users of these numbers to re-evaluate their usage.
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    LazyTyper wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean by "override-provider", but the Post Office normally do free line connection.

    Check out http://www.postoffice.co.uk/home-phone

    You appear to mixing up call connection charge with line connection charge.;) A seperate kettle of fish.:D
  • AllFumbs
    AllFumbs Posts: 22 Forumite
    Hello, LazyTyper and others,
    Yes, I do indeed mean indirect-access a.k.a. prefix, services.

    I've used '18185' for some years. Register via web-site then each time you go to dial a number key-in '18185', first. That gives you up to 60 minutes for just a 6p connection-charge. (That's on a BT landline to another UK '01'-number.)

    There's a comprehensive tariff on the web-site for calls to fixed and mobile-numbers both domestic and overseas.

    My connection with the 18185 service is only as a satisfied customer. (Why, I even recall joining when the connection-charge was 0p!)

    Thank you, all.


    AF.
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    AllFumbs wrote: »
    Hello, LazyTyper and others,
    Yes, I do indeed mean indirect-access a.k.a. prefix, services.

    I've used '18185' for some years. Register via web-site then each time you go to dial a number key-in '18185', first. That gives you up to 60 minutes for just a 6p connection-charge. (That's on a BT landline to another UK '01'-number.)

    There's a comprehensive tariff on the web-site for calls to fixed and mobile-numbers both domestic and overseas.

    My connection with the 18185 service is only as a satisfied customer. (Why, I even recall joining when the connection-charge was 0p!)

    Thank you, all.


    AF.

    Make the most of it while you can.;)
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    AllFumbs wrote: »
    I've used '18185' for some years. Register via web-site then each time you go to dial a number key-in '18185', first. That gives you up to 60 minutes for just a 6p connection-charge. (That's on a BT landline to another UK '01'-number.)
    Er... no. It gives you a call of unlimited duration for 5p connection (and 0p per minute) to any 01 or 02 number.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • LazyTyper
    LazyTyper Posts: 372 Forumite
    JohnDinton wrote: »
    I don't understand the relevance of Post Office Homephone, except that I saw a comment today that it had vastly increase the price of calss to 0844 and 0843 numbers, so making calls through dial through providers would be uneconomic.

    I misunderstood the original poster, thought it was some crazy explanation for a phone line provider other than BT... my bad :D
  • AllFumbs
    AllFumbs Posts: 22 Forumite
    Heinz wrote: »
    Er... no. It gives you a call of unlimited duration for 5p connection (and 0p per minute) to any 01 or 02 number.

    Thanks for the correction, Heinz: a money-saving expert indeed!

    I could've sworn that the '18185' connection-charge had been 6p at some point. (Over the years it has varied.) Try as I might I can't find anywhere on its 'site that calls are unlimited. (I don't doubt you're right.) Oh, and please excuse my late reply.

    AF.
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    AllFumbs wrote: »
    I could've sworn that the '18185' connection-charge had been 6p at some point. (Over the years it has varied.)
    18185's connection charge for UK calls went up from 4p to 5p in mid-January 2007 but I cannot trace it ever having been higher than it is now (it's still 4p for international calls, of course).
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
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