kids terrorising elderly people

marisco_2

Sorry to hear of all these people are going through. It must be awful for them. I hope installing the CCTV has a positive effect and that they will be left in peace from now on. It makes me feel sad to hear of situations like this occurring. It is a horrible reflection on the society we live in that some children have no respect, consideration or concern for others and think that they can upset and intimidate people. When I grew up, respect for my elders was drilled into me from a very young age as it should be, not just from my parents either but from most adults that I came into contact with. That doesn't seem to happen now, mores the pity.

adouglasmhor

newcook wrote: »

I suggested this to my friend but he said when he told the police he was going to film them that they said he could end up in trouble himself for filming kids!!

The police are talking rubbish.

kathrynha

We have CCTV and it was very easy to install, and not that expensive.
Obviously you can record your own land no probs.
The public road outside your property is fine too, as you can film in a public place, though I think it's not supposed to be the main focus of the camera.
Almost impossible to record just your property and nothing outside it.
Recording neighbours property you shouldn't do without their permission.

For us, we can't record our side path without recording the neighbours, but we spoke to them, showed them what the cameras covered, and they were happy because it gave them extra security.

Our CCTV is obviously fine, because the police have used our footage to catch the people that broke into next doors shed, and even came to ask us if we had any footage of across the road being broken in to and they were able to identify one of the guys walking along the road in the middle of the night.

Also no need to put up signs if it is private residential property I believe.

Definitely record it, even if you just do it by proping up your mobile in the window, and challenge the police if they dont like it.

adouglasmhor

kingfisherblue wrote: »

You are entitled to mount CCTV covering your own land, but you may have to put up a sign saying that you are recording. A friend of mine has CCTV and had to put up a sign, but whether this is a local bylaw or a national requirement, I'm not sure.

You do have to if you are a business, you don't if it's a private individual.

PasturesNew

newcook wrote: »

unfortunately they dont know who the kids parents are

The police will. With footage to show the police they'll come round and watch, know who it is and go bang on the doors straight away. That's what happened in my case. They were round within 20 minutes of my footage ... and banging on doors within 20 minutes of seeing it.

Mojisola

If you put a camera up somewhere that the kids won't notice, you stand more chance of getting pictures of their faces.

If they see the camera, all you'll get are hoodies and scarfs.

aileth

newcook wrote: »

Last night they called the police (who arrived 3 hours after being called) who said they cant do anything as there is no evidence so my friend said he will record it on his phone only to be told that if he was to do this he could end up in trouble himself as its kids!!!!

In a nutshell exactly what is wrong with society today.

Anybody taking photos or film of kids are obviously !!!!!philes. What an absolute load of trollop. Hope the coppers get the book thrown at them.

Guest101

newcook wrote: »

I suggested this to my friend but he said when he told the police he was going to film them that they said he could end up in trouble himself for filming kids!!

This old chestnut.

The rule of thumb with this is, the police dont have a clue.

You, me, anyone can film, ANYONE else, at all in public or on our own land.

There is no law saying you cannot film children.

You cannot make indecent images, of course, but gathering evidence, and general photgraphy, video is perfectly allowed.

Next time tel the police to either !!!!!! or quote the law.

pinkteapot

Agree with the CCTV suggestion. I think there's a difference between CCTV constantly monitoring the front of your property (and so catching footage of anyone outside), and deliberately filming children on your mobile phone. (Not saying I agree with the policeperson who said you shouldn't film children though!)

artbaron

newcook wrote: »

Last night they called the police (who arrived 3 hours after being called) who said they cant do anything as there is no evidence so my friend said he will record it on his phone only to be told that if he was to do this he could end up in trouble himself as its kids!!!!

Between workshy and ignorant I'd go with workshy to describe that plod. He must know that it's perfectly legal to film another person in public so clearly he's lying so that he can get out of doing his job. Officers like that should be sacked, they're a disgrace.

As mentioned, get this scrotes filmed and get the evidence. That's step one, the easy bit. The difficult bit is getting the police to give a damn.