Homophobia at the Premier Inn

daytona0

Valli wrote: »

The lad (law student) says it's not discrimination

Thank you, oh wise lad :T

ThumbRemote

Valli wrote: »

It's not discriminatory because the motivation behind it is not intended to discriminate (against lesbians, in this example) but to protect other users.

Two genuine questions to him then.

Firstly, where in the equalities act is the motivation mentioned?

Secondly, there's an example of indirect discrimination here: http://www.equality.leeds.ac.uk/the-law/indirect-discrimination/
Within that example the motivation is not to discriminate, and the rule applies to everyone equally. Yet in this case - even though it's not deliberate - because the rule has a greater effect on a protected group, it's considered discrimination. So why is that considered different?

RuthnJasper

Be thankful that we aren't in North Korea,China, Russia or a Middle East country or similar. If you were, suddenly not being able to look up a social site in a hotel room really would not seem like much of a problem any more.

I know of a theatre company who initially struggled to fill their pantomime one year; they were mystified, until they realised that "!!!!!! Whittington" was being declined by most of the county schools' e-mail filters to whom they'd mailed the usual booking offers...

It's an issue, but not a problem.

ThumbRemote

RuthnJasper wrote: »

It's an issue, but not a problem.

It's easy to say it's not a problem if it hasn't directly affected you.

Maybe if you did suffer discrimination for your sexuality then you'd be more inclined to speak up about it.

daytona0

ThumbRemote wrote: »

It's easy to say it's not a problem if it hasn't directly affected you.

Maybe if you did suffer discrimination for your sexuality then you'd be more inclined to speak up about it.

What are you, a lesbian who has been bullied or discriminated against? Kinell welcome to the real world That !!!! happens to everyone to a degree and you just deal with it. Just be glad you don't live in some dodgy country where you might be beheaded instead.

Western people grind my gears sometimes. In some countries groups (like gays, lesbians etc) are severely discriminated to the extent at which they could be killed over their sexuality. Then you've got the people living in UK/USA who have nothing better to do than argue a moot point about a hotel's genuine attempt at protecting children. the laws in US and UK are good and they are actually a bit o a luxury when compared to other countries....

ThumbRemote

daytona0 wrote: »

What are you, a lesbian who has been bullied or discriminated against? Kinell welcome to the real world That !!!! happens to everyone to a degree and you just deal with it. Just be glad you don't live in some dodgy country where you might be beheaded instead.

Western people grind my gears sometimes. In some countries group (like gays, lesbians etc) are severely discriminated to the extend at which they could be killed 4 their sexuality. Then you've got the people living in UK/USA who have nothing better to do than argue a moot point about a hotel's genuine attempt at protecting children.

Because things are worse elsewhere is not a reason for ignoring issues here.

RuthnJasper

ThumbRemote wrote: »

It's easy to say it's not a problem if it hasn't directly affected you.

Maybe if you did suffer discrimination for your sexuality then you'd be more inclined to speak up about it.

Thank you for letting me know about what I have and haven't suffered. Most informative. If you could be kind enough to go on to explain how I might seek support I should be most grateful.

Kind regards.

RuthnJasper

daytona0 wrote: »

What are you, a lesbian who has been bullied or discriminated against? Kinell welcome to the real world That !!!! happens to everyone to a degree and you just deal with it. Just be glad you don't live in some dodgy country where you might be beheaded instead.

Western people grind my gears sometimes. In some countries groups (like gays, lesbians etc) are severely discriminated to the extent at which they could be killed over their sexuality. Then you've got the people living in UK/USA who have nothing better to do than argue a moot point about a hotel's genuine attempt at protecting children. the laws in US and UK are good and they are actually a bit o a luxury when compared to other countries....

That is the way I was looking at it; thanks for putting it better than I did. Homophobia is not a trivial issue. Not being able to access a website over the course of one or two evenings is minor in the extreme.

lincroft1710

Interestingly OP says her website does not have "adult" content. Yet if her website is GayGirlNet.com, Web of Trust says this site is not safe for children.

ThumbRemote

RuthnJasper wrote: »

Thank you for letting me know about what I have and haven't suffered. Most informative. If you could be kind enough to go on to explain how I might seek support I should be most grateful.

Kind regards.

Do you regularly suffer from discrimination due to being a lesbian?

If the answer is 'no' then you're probably not the right person to tell a lesbian what she should or shouldn't consider an problem.

If the answer is 'yes' then please accept my apologies. However it would have added weight to your first posting to add this fact.