Jsa paid to cover weekends?

Kesstra

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

thanks, i am going to give up working and sign on, could do with a bit of time to enjoy life, and daytime tv looks good.

If you can hack the arbitrary sanctions and JCP advisors go ahead. If it's so easy go ahead, if you think JSA is the life if champaign, feel free to ditch your job and live on the breadline.
It's not easy. It's soul destroying and you will lose family and friends over it.

By the way, the Job Centre will not pay you if you *quit* your job...so good luck with that one.

Dear oh dear, Daily Hate reader by any chance??

Kesstra

corvus wrote: »

Hi

My question is: does Job Seeker's Allowance cover Saturday and Sunday, or is it only paid to cover Monday-Friday?

I've looked online but it seems a question impossible to answer. I think I remember (vaguely) hearing quite a few years ago that benefits do not cover weekends, but now I need to find something concrete. Yes I could ask the DWP itself, but having worked for Government Department Communications, I know it's not worth the effort.

My Job Centre is forcing me to look for work at weekends, and I resent that. It's not job hunting I resent (I apply for over 50 jobs a week), what I resent is being forced to jump through hoops by a bunch of fascists for what is, let's face it - a pittance.

Any info welcomed.

I can't speak on the rules,

BUT as someone who had to claim for a short time only (thank goodness) many years ago, I can honestly say, suck it up, find a job and run like hell from the JCP before they eat your soul up.
That is what they want and will make you suffer for it.

Best to suffer the least and get out of the flaming kitchen, than be burnt!

Hoops are the rules and you will jump when you are told or face the sanctions no matter how unfair or how illegal they are.


I have heard some horror stories of HONEST job seekers being sanctioned for example because of not signing on because they were at a mandatory training course sent their by the job centre in the first place.
Any excuse to sanction, bully and take away your money.
They are not there to help you. They are doublethink doublespeak machine chewing you up and spitting you out.

There is nothing wrong with appealing wrong decisions or knowing the facts and rules, that's fine but don't make a problem where there is none because when the sh8888 really hits the fan you will be fkd financially.

Don't expect sympathy or truth from the proles either! They are blinded to reality.

mattcanary

Kesstra wrote: »

Actually the job centre can sanction you for not applying for jobs even when you are clearly not qualified. Therefore, it is very possible someone has in fact applied for hundreds of jobs each week and as you pointed out is probably a cut and paste job!
If you are over qualified you still have to apply!
Targeting employers and researching is not good enough. Most of us are not stupid, we understand how employers work and the systems in place to get the right person. The problem is the JCP do not care they just want you off their books.
You have to apply for whatever level they have said you must do. Worked in admin? Then apply for anything that happens to require paperwork and a computer. Ie check out girl, shelf stacker. (I am not saying in any way these jobs are bad, just pointing out the problems faced by job seekers and JCP rules)

Believe me when I was claiming way back 15 years ago after working since 16 my local JCP was rather hysterical about things and they didn't have sanctions back then other than being signed off eventually. This was when jobs were quite plentiful, though still hard to bag a permanent role. I got myself a job after 6 months. I am not stupid, not lazy, pro active and it took me that long!

The problem is, the people wanted stricter rules and that what we got. Making job seekers apply for ANY job just to get them off JSA as soon as they can.
If you think the JCP are there to help you, forget it.

It is best to prevent the Jobcentre from accessing your Universal Jobsearch account. You are perfectly entitled to do this.


In my experience, this prevents you getting grief when you sign on where your adviser tries to make you apply for certain jobs and says that you haven't applied for jobs you could have done.

Morlock

Bantex wrote: »

He may be entitled, but the cash is still being taken from others who have no say in the matter.

Of course you have a say in the matter, don't pay any income tax, that may mean giving up your job if you work.

It makes as much sense as advising someone to not claim any unemployment benefits.

gettingready

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

thanks, i am going to give up working and sign on, could do with a bit of time to enjoy life, and daytime tv looks good.

Really? Your intellectual level uncovered...:D

Kesstra

mattcanary wrote: »

It is best to prevent the Jobcentre from accessing your Universal Jobsearch account. You are perfectly entitled to do this.


In my experience, this prevents you getting grief when you sign on where your adviser tries to make you apply for certain jobs and says that you haven't applied for jobs you could have done.

I have never heard about that nor did I know that was even an option. Granted it was many years ago that I claimed.

The JCP and the media don't exactly want people to know the rules, nor do the public so it seems. And is exactly why I said, get the money, do what they ask and run like hell!

CCFC_80

mattcanary wrote: »

It is best to prevent the Jobcentre from accessing your Universal Jobsearch account. You are perfectly entitled to do this.


In my experience, this prevents you getting grief when you sign on where your adviser tries to make you apply for certain jobs and says that you haven't applied for jobs you could have done.

Just enquiring if you deny them access that you might just be cutting off your nose to spite your face. Wouldn't the JSA advisers then just go through the website and pick out all the jobs you should have applied for and require proof that you did.

Am I missing something else here?

mattcanary

CCFC_80 wrote: »

Just enquiring if you deny them access that you might just be cutting off your nose to spite your face. Wouldn't the JSA advisers then just go through the website and pick out all the jobs you should have applied for and require proof that you did.

Am I missing something else here?

They certainly haven't done that with me.


I do fully complete the booklet and present it to my adviser each fortnight.
But approximately every other time I sign on, they don't even read it. They just take a very quick (couple of seconds) glance at it, and that's it.


PS: I don;'t agree with this. They should read it and talk about what I have done.


I am starting a new job tomorrow week fortunately anyway, but the point still stands

HiToAll

It is a while ago now since i signed on but as above, maybe once or twice in three months did the advisor ever look at my job book, or in fact ask me about it.

Just sat down, signed my name and walked out. They were, on the whole pleasant enough but not much/any job support, or indication that they even cared if i got a job or was looking for one.

donnajunkie

corvus wrote: »

Hi

My question is: does Job Seeker's Allowance cover Saturday and Sunday, or is it only paid to cover Monday-Friday?

I've looked online but it seems a question impossible to answer. I think I remember (vaguely) hearing quite a few years ago that benefits do not cover weekends, but now I need to find something concrete. Yes I could ask the DWP itself, but having worked for Government Department Communications, I know it's not worth the effort.

My Job Centre is forcing me to look for work at weekends, and I resent that. It's not job hunting I resent (I apply for over 50 jobs a week), what I resent is being forced to jump through hoops by a bunch of fascists for what is, let's face it - a pittance.

Any info welcomed.

i've only read a few response and i see the usual moronic responses to this kind of thing have appeared. i dont know if you have had a proper response yet but heres mine.
the last time i knew for sure it was paid for monday to saturday. however that was a long time ago and its likely to have changed. whether it has or not part of the new get tough stance is to require 7 days a week jobseeking, especially if you have the net at home.
i agree its out of order to expect people to do 7 days a week but it is possible to fib in your evidence to some degree. i am not advising that. it is upto you what you do.
ps if you have allowed access to your ujm account then log in and untick the box. provide yuor evidence in written form like on the diary sheets.