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CP Plus Popla Appeal Help required please

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  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Found this for you on another post from a simple search in the end for CP plus
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    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    You need to pont out using quotations from POPLA Decisions threads and won appeal as that things like unnecessary checks, see post #1277. (And go back to full decision for this one too)

    Search the same thread for other POPLA decisions regarding operating costs etc and quote these too.
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,362 Forumite
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    The last 4 rows of costs have nothing whatsoever to do with the GPEOL relating to the actual parking event . These are entirely related to the POPLA appeal process. Total loss directly attributed to the POPLA appeal process = £86.45.

    Had you paid at the time of the NtK, they would have still charged you £100. One might argue that anyone paying £100 (as a GPEOL - only GPEOL is allowable under the BPA CoP) will have been deliberately and knowingly overcharged by £86.45. Real GPEOL = £13.55.

    Now that real GPEOL is starting to very much look like the DfT's estimate of £12.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • gertysingh
    gertysingh Posts: 286 Forumite
    In addition to what everyone else has said, replace Vehicle Control Services for CP Plus
    1)The amount of the charge is disproportionate to the loss incurred by CP plus and is punitive, contravening the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1997. I also consider the PCN to be a penalty because Vehicle Control Services Ltd have alleged a breach of terms and conditions and yet have not quantified their alleged loss
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  • gertysingh
    gertysingh Posts: 286 Forumite
    It should also be noted that Dee's post is part of CP Plus' Popla defence pack and you can re-state Umkomaas' response in reply to their defence.

    So add Dee's post #23 to your Popla appeal and when you receive their evidence pack, respond as Umkomaas has stated.

    You get 2 goes to ensure the assessors have read your appeal :)
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,362 Forumite
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    gertysingh wrote: »
    It should also be noted that Dee's post is part of CP Plus' Popla defence pack and you can re-state Umkomaas' response in reply to their defence.

    So add Dee's post #23 to your Popla appeal and when you receive their evidence pack, respond as Umkomaas has stated.

    You get 2 goes to ensure the assessors have read your appeal :)

    In fact, having another look at this, rows 5, 6 and 7 are unconnected with the actual parking event, so you can knock another £6.97 off the real GPEOL total.

    Actual GPEOL immediately after the parking event = £6.46.

    I always thought that DfT estimate was way too much :rotfl:
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    I actually took the loss breakdown from this post
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5020296

    However this one is not the best example as it was a rare loss. However there are lots of great suggestions after the posting of this image to help fight for the future.
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • Gokumdas
    Gokumdas Posts: 14 Forumite
    So do I actually get to see CP plus's defence pack and argue against it?

    I thought I had to appeal and then they prepared their defence which I didnt get to argue against.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    their evidence pack is sent to you maybe a week before the decision, at which time you can rebut their defence same as they will do with yours (assuming they do this, some dont)
  • Gokumdas
    Gokumdas Posts: 14 Forumite
    Well some good news here, I wrote to the CEO of Morrisons and they have cancelled my parking ticket.

    Thank you very much for the information that I found here, including the CEO email address.

    Thank you also to the people who took the time to reed and find the errors in my letters!
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