Diesel Drivers to be taxed more?

[Deleted User]

They should just bring the old VED system back, e.g. one charge for cars 1.2L or less, 1.6 or less, 2.0 or less, etc.

hgotsparkle

Deleted_User wrote: »

They should just bring the old VED system back, e.g. one charge for cars 1.2L or less, 1.6 or less, 2.0 or less, etc.

They definitely should.

Me and Oh have the same make and model, but mines a 1.6 petrol car and his is the 1.9TDi van version of the car.

Our Tax band is exactly the same.

AdrianC

hgotsparkle wrote: »

They definitely should.

Me and Oh have the same make and model, but mines a 1.6 petrol car and his is the 1.9TDi van version of the car.

Our Tax band is exactly the same.

And if your vehicles were both on the pre-2001, engine-size rather than CO2, tax banding - they still would be. And so would next door's Ferrari.

Two bands, <1550cc, 1550cc=>

Johnmcl7

Deleted_User wrote: »

They should just bring the old VED system back, e.g. one charge for cars 1.2L or less, 1.6 or less, 2.0 or less, etc.

I don't think that system makes any sense with modern cars as the use of turbochargers and occasionally superchargers means the cubic capacity of an engine has increasingly less relation to performance/emissions.

John

Strider590

sh0597 wrote: »

VED as it stands makes little sense anyway.

I have two cars, one costs me 200 a year tax, the other 220.
The first does 14000 miles, the second does less than 1000.

Something needs to change.....

Classic car owners shouldn't be punished for their hobby.

AdrianC

Strider590 wrote: »

I have two cars, one costs me 200 a year tax, the other 220.
The first does 14000 miles, the second does less than 1000.

And how much fuel duty, IPT and VAT does each contribute?

Classic car owners shouldn't be punished for their hobby.

Perhaps if VED was free for older vehicles? Say, 40yr and older, with the exemption rolling? That'd be a good idea, wouldn't it?

(And, fwiw, I speak here as somebody with a stack of '80s vehicles...)

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AdrianC wrote: »

Perhaps if VED was free for older vehicles? Say, 40yr and older, with the exemption rolling? That'd be a good idea, wouldn't it?

Your wish is their command

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-excise-duty-40-year-rolling-exemption-for-classic-vehicles

[Deleted User]

My view of classic car owners are that they never go anywhere in their classic car apart from rocking back and forwards between their garage and drive. They are all under the impression that you need a new sub 3 year old car to drive anyway. Even to the corner shop and back.

If they are going to make VED free for classic cars then they should make it free for anything over 10 years old. Then us bangernomics who actually drive old cars on a daily basis can benefit too.

Bollotom

Look around at the commercial vehicles. Mainly diesel, Taxis, mainly diesel, Trains, quite a lot diesel, Buses, diesel, ships diesel. Then remove them all and insist they be petrol, not enough capacity at car makers, refineries, steelworks, plastics fabricators, etc. And let's not tax the commercial vehicles, taxis, trains and ships. Let's instead tax the motorist first and add a further tax as they will be trapped until they can afford a petrol, lpg or electric car and/or the manufacturers can supply the inevitable demand. As with those inefficient boilers and the "Scrappage scheme". Wouldn't it be tempting for the government to now tell motorists to scrap their cars and get a payout towards a new non-polluting vehicle? :cool:

A._Badger

Bollotom wrote: »

Look around at the commercial vehicles. Mainly diesel, Taxis, mainly diesel, Trains, quite a lot diesel, Buses, diesel, ships diesel. :cool:

You left out the generators being purchased by the score, which will be run on diesel when the lights start to go out during winter as the 'green' energy solutions don't work and the remaining coal and the remaining gas power stations can't cope with demand.

What is needed is a consistent policy, not a bunch of thick politicians pandering to an infantile, noisy 'green' lobby. The entire basis on which vehicles are taxed needs an overhaul.