London Housing Shortage -Long distance commuters push up prices elsewhere

vivatifosi

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

I mean, we all know London has a staggering shortage of housing, but the best part of a million people commuting from elsewhere in the UK?

Article notes the biggest growth is commuters from the Midlands.

Most of these people will be coming from the South East/Eastern regions. The growth from the Midlands may be the biggest, but the base is way lower by comparison.

lisyloo

when you could get a train in

The trains doesn't stop in central London.
If you're lucky to work near a train station then great, otherwise you have up to 30 minutes onward journey.

vivatifosi

lisyloo wrote: »

The trains doesn't stop in central London.
If you're lucky to work near a train station then great, otherwise you have up to 30 minutes onward journey.

I worked in Central London for 10 years. 5 minute walk to the train station 25-35 minute train (depending on which one I got), 10 minute walk the other end.

If I lived in London, I'd still need to walk to the tube and the other end from the tube station. I'd probably save 5 minutes on my walk by going to a tube station, but that's assuming no changes. I'm pretty sure it would take longer, but it would be cheaper. However living there would be more expensive.

padington

It won't be long until the 'pod hotel' idea comes to London. Tiny space to crash but really lively social club/ bar/ spa thing making 'working holidays' relatively cheap but also a right laugh.

the_flying_pig

i'm a fairly massive unfan of long-distance commuting compared to staying in london.

it's highly questionable to me that you [assuming a working father & stay-at-home mother, not unreasonably so given that 'two commuter' families are pretty much impossible] are doing your kids [and wife of course] a big favour by, on the one hand:

(a) making sure they each have their own spacious bedroom & that there are relatively few non-native speakers at their school; but on the other

(b) hardly seeing them other than at weekends & on holidays.

Many London primary schools are really very decent.

padington

the_flying_pig wrote: »

i'm a fairly massive unfan of long-distance commuting compared to staying in london.

it's highly questionable to me that you [assuming a working father & stay-at-home mother, not unreasonably so given that 'two commuter' families are pretty much impossible] are doing your kids [and wife of course] a big favour by, on the one hand:

(a) making sure they each have their own spacious bedroom & that there are relatively few non-native speakers at their school; but on the other

(b) hardly seeing them other than at weekends & on holidays.

Many London primary schools are really very decent.

I'm a fan of more bright minds coming to London for short spells, it will enrich London, it should be encouraged.

Live the country dream and have a really happening working half week. Most jobs only require you to be in the office for three days of meetings max, the rest could be done at home.

Three days away, two days working at home, two days off. It would break up the week well.

AndyGuil

vivatifosi wrote: »

I worked in Central London for 10 years. 5 minute walk to the train station 25-35 minute train (depending on which one I got), 10 minute walk the other end.

If I lived in London, I'd still need to walk to the tube and the other end from the tube station. I'd probably save 5 minutes on my walk by going to a tube station, but that's assuming no changes. I'm pretty sure it would take longer, but it would be cheaper. However living there would be more expensive.

A property very close to a prime commuter station is going to be very expensive so property price savings won't be great. If you are working next to the station the train stops at then your commute will be ok. As is normally the case you will work somewhere else and so you have to use the tube and/or bus. The train station will have one or two tube lines to choose from and there can be a long transfer time. If you are London you can position yourself on the line you need to get you to work most efficiently and you pay very little cost commuting compared to trains from outside. The one thing I notice the most is that train issues effect people commuting into London more frequent. Severe issues can mean not just being late but also not being able to travel to work at all. Issues in the evening can be very stressful when trying to get home. Living in London there is always a way to get in or home. There are a number of backup options to avoid issues.

padington

AndyGuil wrote: »

A property very close to a prime commuter station is going to be very expensive so property price savings won't be great. If you are working next to the station the train stops at then your commute will be ok. As is normally the case you will work somewhere else and so you have to use the tube and/or bus. The train station will have one or two tube lines to choose from and there can be a long transfer time. If you are London you can position yourself on the line you need to get you to work most efficiently and you pay very little cost commuting compared to trains from outside. The one thing I notice the most is that train issues effect people commuting into London more frequent. Severe issues can mean not just being late but also not being able to travel to work at all. Issues in the evening can be very stressful when trying to get home. Living in London there is always a way to get in or home. There are a number of backup options to avoid issues.

This is where Brompton bikes become really handy. The bike made in and for London.

wotsthat

My advice would be to live and work in the Midlands but earn London wages.

wymondham

Lifes too short to spend it in a tin can watching your life go by..... what ever happened to home working?


Seriously, if home working took off it would reduce hot spots of expensive housing?