Question about P45 - I have two different versions

xxxpinkladyxxx

I'm due to go back to work later this month and obviously need to provide my P45 from my previous job. I worked for my last company until the end of June 2013 but I have two P45s.

One has my leaving date down as 7 August 2013 (which isn't correct going by the date I left my employment) and the other has my leaving date down as 30 June 2013. Also, one is a a form that contains a carbon copy behind it and the form has been filled out by hand, the other has been printed. Not sure if that makes any difference at all.

I did however claim Job Seekers Allowance (contribution based) between the 30th June and 7 August 2013 (stopped claiming this so soon as I switched over to Maternity Allowance as I was 7 months pregnant). So I'm just wondering if anyone knows which copy my new employer will need. The one that gives the end of my employment date or the one that gives the end of my claiming JSA?

chrisbur

xxxpinkladyxxx wrote: »

I'm due to go back to work later this month and obviously need to provide my P45 from my previous job. I worked for my last company until the end of June 2013 but I have two P45s.

One has my leaving date down as 7 August 2013 (which isn't correct going by the date I left my employment) and the other has my leaving date down as 30 June 2013. Also, one is a a form that contains a carbon copy behind it and the form has been filled out by hand, the other has been printed. Not sure if that makes any difference at all.

I did however claim Job Seekers Allowance (contribution based) between the 30th June and 7 August 2013 (stopped claiming this so soon as I switched over to Maternity Allowance as I was 7 months pregnant). So I'm just wondering if anyone knows which copy my new employer will need. The one that gives the end of my employment date or the one that gives the end of my claiming JSA?

A P45 should have 3 parts when you get it, part 1A you keep for your records and parts 2 and 3 which you give to your new employer. I would assume that the 30 June P45 is the one from your last employer and the 7 August one from the jobcentre. Assuming that you handed is the 30 June P45 to the jobcentre you should only have part 1A now and the P45 from the jobcentre should be three parts. Not that this will make a lot of difference as these P45s relate to last tax year so handing in the 7 August one will get you on the current emergency tax code 1000L applied on a non-cumulative basis. If you have had no taxable income so far this tax year (6 April 2014 onwards) it would be better to "not have" a P45 and instead make a new starter declaration that this is your first job this tax year, your new employer can then use the emergency tax code on a cumulative basis which will give you your tax free allowance back to 6 April.

getmore4less

Are 2013/14 P45 even relevant in a new tax year.


As above if you claimed taxable benefits you should have a new P45 from them.

xxxpinkladyxxx

Thanks for this. The job centre never asked me for my P45 so I never actually gave it to them.

chrisbur

xxxpinkladyxxx wrote: »

Thanks for this. The job centre never asked me for my P45 so I never actually gave it to them.

The P45 itself gives full details of what to do with it including ....
"Claiming Jobseeker's Allowance or
Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
Take this form to your Jobcentre Plus office. They will pay you
any tax refund you may be entitled to when your claim ends,
or at 5 April if this is earlier"

As I said earlier if you have had no taxable income so far this year best to just do a starter declaration and get onto a cumulative emergency tax code.

Have you checked if tax was overpaid last year?

xxxpinkladyxxx

I didn't earn anything last year. I took voluntary redundancy which ended my employment on 30 June 2013. But I didn't earn any taxable income in 2013 anyway as I was on maternity leave and my Statutory Maternity Pay finished in March 2013.

anamenottaken

xxxpinkladyxxx wrote: »

I didn't earn anything last year. I took voluntary redundancy which ended my employment on 30 June 2013. But I didn't earn any taxable income in 2013 anyway as I was on maternity leave and my Statutory Maternity Pay finished in March 2013.

You did receive taxable income in 2013-14 as you have mentioned JSA for one thing.

However the current tax year started on 6 April 2014 and for now you just need to complete a new starter form (some employers may refer to a P46).

Millie_Millsters

You can download a P46 from the HMRC website.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p46exemptonline.pdf

agrinnall

Millie_Millsters wrote: »

You can download a P46 from the HMRC website.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p46exemptonline.pdf

Pointless as the P46 is no longer in use.

Just complete the employer's new starter checklist, and either file the P45 for your own records or throw it away.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/working/forms/paye-forms.htm#6