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Is this fair?

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  • Markb06
    Markb06 Posts: 390 Forumite
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    dounome wrote: »
    Has your employer stated why you would have to work these days as opposed to say an extra midweek day.

    None what so ever.
  • impecunious
    impecunious Posts: 208 Forumite
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    Is it fair? Of course it isn't!! But, then again, who ever said life was fair, Mark? It certainly seems to be the case that you are in no (legal) position to argue with your manager. As regards to your employment as a whole, why not go along for a little while and seek alternative employment elsewhere. 15 hours a week is not something you do for a career, now is it?

    PS Good luck with your contact with your daughter:T
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  • dounome
    dounome Posts: 355 Forumite
    Dont think it is fair to demand you work those days just to see you daughter, im sure there is Govt guidlines now and companies have to be more child friendly with their employees, at least in my work they do.
    Mind you i suppose the fact he's not stopping you have the Sat off he is being child friendly
    If you only work 15 hours would it not be feasible to just change jobs to something more suited
  • amyb_2
    amyb_2 Posts: 3,346 Forumite
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    I have part time staff who work on a rota type system with can be any three days on a seven day week. This will include two Saturdays a month

    This is what i assume the OP works- and is prfectly legal and fair. Its what they agreed to when they signed the contract.

    I wouldn't allow them not to work Saturdays. (but the OPs manager has kindly agreed to change the terms of the contract and let him have the day off but only if he works other weekend days. To enable the other staff members to have some weekends off i assume.

    In retail you have to have staff in when you are busiest so not working Saturday would mean someone else would have to. The gov't guidlines are where reasonably practical.
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  • LittleVoice
    LittleVoice Posts: 8,974 Forumite
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    How old is your daughter? That could make a difference, I suppose.

    Mark, surely your employer is not actually saying "you must work Friday and Sunday or you will not see your daughter". What your employer is saying is, "I need to have sufficient staff in on Fridays to Sundays and, if you want to have every Saturday off, I am willing to accommodate that if you work on the other two days". So actually it does seem fair to me.
  • HappyG1rl
    HappyG1rl Posts: 242 Forumite
    Mark, surely your employer is not actually saying "you must work Friday and Sunday or you will not see your daughter". What your employer is saying is, "I need to have sufficient staff in on Fridays to Sundays and, if you want to have every Saturday off, I am willing to accommodate that if you work on the other two days". So actually it does seem fair to me.

    This is what it sounds like to me too and it does sound fair. Unfortunately we have to organise our home lives around our working lives as that is what provides us with the money to be able to enjoy our home lives.

    I suppose it is a bit difficult though if friends and family perhaps work full time and the only time you may get to see them is at the weekend.

    Why don't you go along with it and see how it works out whilst keeping an eye out in case a more suitable job comes up somewhere else?

    Have you only just started seeing your daughter on Saturdays - is there not any way you could see her Saturday one week and Sunday the next to fit in with both work and your partner/former partner's routine too?
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  • Markb06
    Markb06 Posts: 390 Forumite
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    Toots wrote: »
    This is what it sounds like to me too and it does sound fair. Unfortunately we have to organise our home lives around our working lives as that is what provides us with the money to be able to enjoy our home lives.

    I suppose it is a bit difficult though if friends and family perhaps work full time and the only time you may get to see them is at the weekend.

    Why don't you go along with it and see how it works out whilst keeping an eye out in case a more suitable job comes up somewhere else?

    Have you only just started seeing your daughter on Saturdays - is there not any way you could see her Saturday one week and Sunday the next to fit in with both work and your partner/former partner's routine too?

    No its a court order at a contact centre that is not open on Sundays
  • Markb06
    Markb06 Posts: 390 Forumite
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    How old is your daughter? That could make a difference, I suppose.

    Mark, surely your employer is not actually saying "you must work Friday and Sunday or you will not see your daughter". What your employer is saying is, "I need to have sufficient staff in on Fridays to Sundays and, if you want to have every Saturday off, I am willing to accommodate that if you work on the other two days". So actually it does seem fair to me.


    My daughter is 4.
  • Markb06
    Markb06 Posts: 390 Forumite
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    amyb wrote: »
    I have part time staff who work on a rota type system with can be any three days on a seven day week. This will include two Saturdays a month

    This is what i assume the OP works- and is prfectly legal and fair. Its what they agreed to when they signed the contract.

    I wouldn't allow them not to work Saturdays. (but the OPs manager has kindly agreed to change the terms of the contract and let him have the day off but only if he works other weekend days. To enable the other staff members to have some weekends off i assume.

    In retail you have to have staff in when you are busiest so not working Saturday would mean someone else would have to. The gov't guidlines are where reasonably practical.

    Sorry but i never agreed to work any specific days or set days in a month nor does it say so on my contract
  • liney
    liney Posts: 5,121 Forumite
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    I don't see whats changed really. You said you work 2 days in the week and a Saturday, so now you will work 2 days in the week and a Sunday instead.

    Yes that seems perfectly reasonable, and your boss has been kind enough to make provision for you to change your day from Saturday to Sunday.
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