Giraffe Restaurant Service Charge

brightonman123

'Expected' tips is totally wrong, imo.

kboss2010

danielanthony wrote: »

But they're having to deal with members of the scummy public all day with a smile on their face and directly influence how good a time you have whilst eating out. If you don't want to tip these people, then don't, I don't know what the penalty is for not tipping in this country. But in America, I've seen people challenged by their waiter/waitress for not tipping at all or enough, it's seen as a much more formal transaction over there.

I flat-out refused to tip a really rude waitress in LA once because the service was terrible. She wasn't happy but tough. A tip is an extra for good service and, if your wages are reliant on them as in the US, then be nice and don't insult a polite table of "foreigners" for (mostly) not speaking your language as their first (I was the only native English speaker on a very international table from the local hostel).

allan1979

How much of the 10% is passed to the servers?

adouglasmhor

allan1979 wrote: »

How much of the 10% is passed to the servers?

90% apparently.

wijit

I always ask for the service charge to be removed. It is utterly ridiculous to just add something which is a gratuity without consideration for the quality of service.
If the waiting staff are polite, as a very basic minimum, I will tip. But I will tip that person, not the entire restaurant!
Giraffe, although not alone in this, make it awkward to get it removed by insisting only the manager can remove it, there are people who would feel too uncomfortable with that and will take the "oh, don't bother. It's not important" route.
For me, it is important that the person serving knows that I have appreciated that they have done so, and done so in a good way. That is my job, to be appreciative when deserved. NOT the job of a restaurant to tell ME when to tip.

callum9999

kwmlondon wrote: »

Hard experience, mate. I've rarely been let down by friends but I know the kind of people I get on with and the kind I don't and I'd not spend time with someone who refused to pay the service charge as a matter of course. I'd be totally behind someone who refused to pay because they had bad service (I've done this) but apart from that, no.

And to be honest, they'd not want to be friends with me anyway - we'd be better not spending any time together.

There are other things that can alienate me from someone in a second (and you MUST have some yourself) but I won't mention them as I'd start another fracas.

I'm not saying that someone is BAD because they disagree with me or even wrong, just that we are not going to be friends.

If you make such ridiculously pathetic and hypocritical generalisations about people like that I have no trouble believing they wouldn't want to be your friend!

And yes, you're a hypocrite. Every single person involved in the production, transport and sale of anything you ever buy has "served" you in some form, yet you choose to only tip a select group of them. That would be completely fine (loads of people do that) - but you then take the moral high ground over it... I've yet to hear a single valid argument as to why a waitress is more deserving of a tip than a cleaner/supermarket shelf stacker/retail assistant etc etc.