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  • dippy3103
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    K0SS wrote: »
    DWP, just want to create jobs pointless jobs for those who work for the DWP.

    I doubt it. They'd be delighted to shed staff & save money. There's more than enough work to keep the staff going without adding visits. Why do you think it takes so long to process a claim?
  • System
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    i really dont see the problem with it,speaking as a single parent on ESA

    if its to catch fraud then i think they may have more chance than giving a week's notice to the claimant

    tough if you dont like unexpected visitors,thats the whole point and if you have nothing to hide it's a minor inconvenence

    as a benefit recipient i expect some checking my claim is legit,seriously the days of being on benefit and being left alone with know checking etc have gone

    i except that making sure the officer is legit and not some random person claiming to be from the DWP is the main concern i would have other than that i dont see the problem
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    Cyclamen wrote: »
    I have no problem with the theory of this.. but would like some notice so i can book a time when i am prepared.

    By that i mean.. not when my carers are here, tablets taken and working, I have had time to rest and haven't dragged myself out of bed to answer the door, not on a week when i have a medical appointment as they take a few days to recover.

    So yes it might work for some.. but would leave me in a spin, and increased pain.. I'd still talk to them and answer everything but would be really hard going.

    you have no problem with this,you clearly do as you state a long list of reasons why you would want an appointment

    the DWP cant go round making exceptions otherwise whats the point of randomly turning up,and i would of thought seeing your carers with you,taking your meds and generally seeing you have medical needs would be a good thing
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  • spingoblin
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    the DWP cant go round making exceptions otherwise whats the point of randomly turning up,and i would of thought seeing your carers with you,taking your meds and generally seeing you have medical needs would be a good thing

    They have already made exceptions - the guidance issued to dwp officers is that people who are on ESA with mental health/depression as the reason have to be pre-notified so there will be no unexpected knock at the door for them.
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    spingoblin wrote: »
    They have already made exceptions - the guidance issued to dwp officers is that people who are on ESA with mental health/depression as the reason have to be pre-notified so there will be no unexpected knock at the door for them.

    that covers me then :)
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  • Cyclamen
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    you have no problem with this,you clearly do as you state a long list of reasons why you would want an appointment

    the DWP cant go round making exceptions otherwise whats the point of randomly turning up,and i would of thought seeing your carers with you,taking your meds and generally seeing you have medical needs would be a good thing

    I did say in theory ;-)

    then explained for me why it may not work so well and why i would prefer notice. I am sure there are many conditions that are the same.

    If they want to turn up whilst my carer is helping me shower.. they cansit in the lounge until i am decent.. not really ideal for them if they are on a time schedule... but i don't need spectators watching me get dressed.

    If i'm well enough i answer the door etc.. but usually get out of bed to do so in the afternoons...

    I ahve nothing to hide so its not an avoidance strategy.. just with trying to manage an dkeep my condition stable i need to budget activity and pace it.. so unexpected visits are actually detrimental to that.. but of course i'd still let them in and do my best.
  • Viberduo
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    i really dont see the problem with it,speaking as a single parent on ESA

    if its to catch fraud then i think they may have more chance than giving a week's notice to the claimant

    tough if you dont like unexpected visitors,thats the whole point and if you have nothing to hide it's a minor inconvenence

    as a benefit recipient i expect some checking my claim is legit,seriously the days of being on benefit and being left alone with know checking etc have gone

    i except that making sure the officer is legit and not some random person claiming to be from the DWP is the main concern i would have other than that i dont see the problem

    What happens if you are on JSA but are a nervous person, that is the main concern I have as I know from personal experience they interpret nerves as something to hide, or not being able to answer a question as something to hide, I am a nervous person and also if I wasnt I know again from experience about dodgy people knocking on thte door.

    I do not mind a pre arranged visit as it feels less intrusive and I can have someone there for support, or even if I had a friend round sitting in living room and I was in kitchen I would feel I have backup if something happened.

    I would also worry that if they came at 11am and I was in bed and on JSA they might say "oh but you are supposed to be jobsearching most of the day"

    When you have been personally burned by DWP for no reason, and have had close friends and family messed about badly you get skeptical.
  • gholmes724
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    I seem to remember getting a random visit from someone years ago when I had just made a claim for housing benefit, he came in, complimented me on the 'fresh smell' of the place, and went on his way.

    I still have no idea why he bothered.
  • SingleSue
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    i really dont see the problem with it,speaking as a single parent on ESA

    if its to catch fraud then i think they may have more chance than giving a week's notice to the claimant

    tough if you dont like unexpected visitors,thats the whole point and if you have nothing to hide it's a minor inconvenence

    as a benefit recipient i expect some checking my claim is legit,seriously the days of being on benefit and being left alone with know checking etc have gone

    i except that making sure the officer is legit and not some random person claiming to be from the DWP is the main concern i would have other than that i dont see the problem

    For someone like my youngest son (aged 16, complex autism, OCD, anxiety etc), it would be more than a minor inconvenience, he would completely freak out and it would take him weeks for him to recover the trust in his safe haven (our home)...you wouldn't believe the planning and prep that goes into the annual gas safety check and that is for a planned visit and when he is usually at school!

    Not even my parents can visit us at our home, nor school friends....it is his (and his Aspergic brother's) safe haven which allows them to relax and function better in 'normal' life.

    Mind you, the DWP are aware of his difficulties completely, so they would know in advance that there could be problems.....and be prepared for conducting it in my front garden with a 16 year old going booloo in the house! :rotfl:
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
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