Housing Shortage - Numbers of Middle Aged Lodgers Soaring

Bantex_2

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

False.

Around 98% of the UK is not built on. We use more land for golf courses and riding ponies than we do for human habitation.

There are not enough school places.
There are not enough roads.
There are not enough hospital places.
There are not enough doctors.
There are not enough buses.
There are not enough trains.

We just don't have the infrastructure.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Bantex wrote: »

We just don't have the infrastructure.

Better get building then.

As 98% of the UK is not built on, we have plenty of room to do so.:)

dryhat

Bantex wrote: »

There are not enough school places.
There are not enough roads.
There are not enough hospital places.
There are not enough doctors.
There are not enough buses.
There are not enough trains.

We just don't have the infrastructure.

Don't confuse him now.....

..."dot-joining" is not one of McT's strong points.

Graham_Devon

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Better get building then.

As 98% of the UK is not built on, we have plenty of room to do so.:)

That 98% includes moorland, bogs, flood plains and moutains.

Good luck with the plan

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Graham_Devon wrote: »

That 98% includes moorland, bogs, flood plains and moutains.

Good luck with the plan

TBH Graham, you can feel free to not build if you like.

I already have houses.....

dave4545454

PasturesNew wrote: »

You can't maintain the ratio without a pyramid.

What's needed is less people and more jobs, so everybody is productive. Need to reduce the number of people sitting without a job, that's the real problem. An ageing population is fine if there are enough jobs for those of working age and enough jobs for older people who wish to work to be able to do so.

Exactly, there's already 9 million without jobs, another 8 million plus in part time work where many of them want full time, as well as a huge amount of pretend self employed collecting working tax credits because it pays more than JSA.
Many of these of these are chasing the half a million job vacancies.

The problem is we have a very overpopulated country with a huge skills surplus and not enough jobs available.

padington

mystic_trev wrote: »

It won't mater, they'll be a vast oversupply once the Ebola virus reaches us :eek: Over on HPC they say you'll be able to buy a four bedder, in Prime London for under a quid!:D

Medical mask companies. That's who to invest in. I reckon it won't be too long before every house keeps a selection of just in case masks soon. International travel is just so enormous now, when the next Black Death comes it's going to be astronomically bad.

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

That 98% includes moorland, bogs, flood plains and moutains.

Good luck with the plan

There's no realistic alternative than to build more houses.

Like Hamish my housing needs are met and I'm wealthy enough to help my kids buy too. I'm fortunate enough to sit happily by and watch to see whether the housing shortage is addressed or, more likely, the British obsession with the symptom continues.

lostinrates

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/11001521/Middle-aged-priced-out-of-housing-ladder-turn-to-lodger-lifestyle.html

The inevitable result of a housing shortage.

Prices and rents must rise to ration the scarce supply of housing, forcing enough people to share, live at home with parents, become lodgers, etc, until supply and demand fall back into equilibrium.

I still find it quite amazing that so many posters on here and elsewhere spent most of the last 7 years completely denying the housing shortage existed, and wrongly thought prices were high primarily because of lending....

Is it clear this 'new breed' of lodger is not also a home owner elsewhere? I cannot tell I'm afraid ( it is late:o). After all, DH would count as a lodger, but also not 'property poor' nor low income.

padington

wotsthat wrote: »

There's no realistic alternative than to build more houses.

Like Hamish my housing needs are met and I'm wealthy enough to help my kids buy too. I'm fortunate enough to sit happily by and watch to see whether the housing shortage is addressed or, more likely, the British obsession with the symptom continues.

Building houses on the Thames estuary isn't going make it any cheaper to live in Dalston though. It's going to make it cheaper in Kent or wherever they build these houses but the places where people want to live are where the best parties are and they are going to remain increasingly difficult to afford whatever happens.