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Housing Shortage Forces Millions of Adults to Live With Parents

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  • MatteH
    MatteH Posts: 102 Forumite
    I didn't take offence, I was being a little sarcastic about a so called shortage.
  • samsam89
    samsam89 Posts: 216 Forumite
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Probably because they 'deserve' better.

    Please don't patronise me. Smug comments such as that do nothing but belittle the ambition of young people. It's not productive and is just downright rude.

    It has nothing to do with 'deserving' better. I'm well aware we won't be able to afford much as our first home.

    We live in a fairly rural location and flats/maisonettes don't really exist on the market around here. If we were so desperate to purchase one, it would involve having to move further away which would increase our commutes to work and as such wouldn't be practical for our monthly expenditure. We would like to have children in the pretty near future and a flat or maisonette wouldn't be suitable. Little or no outside space and potentially screaming children in close proximity to neighbours to name a couple of reasons.
  • beecher2
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    samsam89 wrote: »
    We would like to have children in the pretty near future and a flat or maisonette wouldn't be suitable. Little or no outside space and potentially screaming children in close proximity to neighbours to name a couple of reasons.

    Plenty of people bring up children in flats so they aren't unsuitable for everyone. Fair enough that you personally don't want a flat or a maisonette, but there's a bit of a difference between need and want.
  • samsam89
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    beecher2 wrote: »
    Plenty of people bring up children in flats so they aren't unsuitable for everyone. Fair enough that you personally don't want a flat or a maisonette, but there's a bit of a difference between need and want.

    It's not necessarily through choice, more through a lack of option as I mentioned. I know people live in flats in cities and larger towns, and manage to bring up children perfectly well. I'm not belittling it or saying we deserve better. The option just isn't really available to us where we live.
  • Percy1983
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    Its nothing to do with thinking we deserve better, the more we are delayed the more the spec changes.

    IE, if I could have afforded anything at 21 a 2 bed terrace would have been fine, as it is the first time I could afford to buy was at 28 so we moved straight to stage 2 and bought a 3 bed semi.

    Its not as simple as all FTBs should by a certain type of home, it depends where they are upto in life when they come to buy and as the average age moves up the average FTB home while change with it.
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  • beecher2
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    The spec has also changed as people expect to have a dining room, a spare room, and there's no expectation that children should share. Not saying that's a bad thing, but it does mean that people expect more than many used to.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 7 August 2014 at 1:34PM
    beecher2 wrote: »
    Plenty of people bring up children in flats so they aren't unsuitable for everyone. Fair enough that you personally don't want a flat or a maisonette, but there's a bit of a difference between need and want.

    Indeed they do, but many flats are also rented.

    Buying a flat, and putting all that money into something you don't really want never appears to be a great idea to me. Especially if you know you are going to move again in the near fuure.....a lot of money spent on buying / selling costs.

    May aswell save a little longer and spend your money on something more suitable.

    IMHO anyway.

    If a flat is your ONLY choice going forward, that's a slightly different matter, but that didn't appear to be what the poster was suggesting.
    beecher2 wrote: »
    The spec has also changed as people expect to have a dining room, a spare room, and there's no expectation that children should share. Not saying that's a bad thing, but it does mean that people expect more than many used to.

    Not sure who you hang around with, but I've never heard anyone who want's their first house demanding a dining room and spare room. Never heard anyone on here talk about the lack of dining rooms in houses either to be honest.

    Seen stuff like that on Location Location Location, but then were talking about people who have the money to spend and are looking for specifics. They are not suggesting they can't buy property in the first place.
  • System
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    samsam89 wrote: »
    It's not necessarily through choice, more through a lack of option as I mentioned. I know people live in flats in cities and larger towns, and manage to bring up children perfectly well. I'm not belittling it or saying we deserve better. The option just isn't really available to us where we live.

    Sorry, but unless I'm mistaken, you said you were part of a couple both earning average salaries.
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  • thor
    thor Posts: 5,505 Forumite
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    Homeowners are able to provide a significantly more stable environment for children to grow up in than private renters.
    Renting does not seem to be such a problem in quite a few countries including Germany.
  • A lot of these adults living at home with the parents need to move out ASAP to prove to the rest of us they have some toughness
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