Voluntary Redundancy Query

edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Redundancy & Redundancy Planning
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Mrs_OptimistMrs_Optimist Forumite
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edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Redundancy & Redundancy Planning
My Office was asking people to step forward for VR as a cost saving exercise - if not enough people offered themselves for VR then Compulsary would apply.


I offer myself as a candidate for VR but the company would not accept my offer as I was "not on their list". Fast forward a few months, 4 colleagues have taken VR, and I am now expected to take over aspects of their jobs, for no extra pay, because they are no longer working to do it. They also want me to alter my working days/hours which are not suitable to me - these days/hours have been worked for the past 15 years so are not a new thing. MY bosses argue that my job is no longer in existence (true), so I should be expected to change my working hours/days to cover jobs which are no longer done because the previous workers have been made redundant! my argument is that if it is no longer in existence they should have accepted my offer of VR instead of making someone else redundant and expecting me to do their job. Is what they are doing legal??

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  • getmore4lessgetmore4less Forumite
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    The questions should have been raised(by all) when they started saying they were going to get rid of people, even if everyone was not 100% busy it was clear that unless there was a lot less work to do others would be picking up the work of that those that left.


    What does your contract say about changes


    This issue is that by getting people to agree to leave they bypass all the redundancy regulations and can now just reorg the workforce in line with normal contractual change requirements.


    If they are saying your job does not exist any more then you could try the make me redundant or make me an offer of suitable alternative employment.


    What they are offering may well be considered suitable.


    Any chance they really wanted to get rid of 5 people and new you might leave if they tried to change your job.


    What is happening to the others that are left.
  • Mrs_OptimistMrs_Optimist Forumite
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    Nope they don't want me to go. The others are secretarial roles - I am more accounts management - and they want me to take on more of this role on different hours/days, for no extra pay. They are surprised by my resistance - I have no problem with taking on more responsibility and not really that bothered about extra pay, but I am peeved that I am expected to alter my hours/days to now cover the role of someone who has just been made redundant. My own role is specialised but will be dwindling in the future so my role is not really there for much longer, but I am in effect taking on someone else's job because they took VR. My argument is that if my role is no longer there, why didn't they accept my offer of VR?


    The remaining staff will be working the same hours and role, so nothing has really changes for them, they will just have more work to do rather than not very much at the moment.
  • Mrs_OptimistMrs_Optimist Forumite
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    Another thought springs to mind; Who decides whether the role offered is "suitable" me - or them?
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    Another thought springs to mind; Who decides whether the role offered is "suitable" me - or them?


    Both and if you can't agree then it's go legal and let an ET decide but that costs.


    Google redundancy suitable alternative it gets very subjective and it on balance.




    With real redundancies it is jobs that go but there is no requirement for the people doing then to be the ones that get made redundant.


    With VR it is just a mutual termination not really redundancy so even less reason to let the people you want to keep go.


    I could speculate why they wanted to keep you rather than the others but if you think about it may become obvious.
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    I work for a local authority and am caught up in the cuts already made with more to come. As people leave or retire they are not replaced and consequently our team is at 60% staffing. Those left in post are having to pick up the work and with compulsory redundancies looming, I am worried about complaining. I'm suffering signs of stress and am worried about being off sick. I have a mortgage to pay and can't afford to lose my job.
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