We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

UK has fastest growing economy of the developed world

2

Comments

  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    With 60% of the UK economy dependent on consumer spend. The concensus view is that the the recovery as it stands is unsustainable. Not least that the growth is funded by debt. Despite over 5 years of record low interest rates the UK consumer owes more than at the time of the GFC.

    It's the UK's menatility which is out of touch with reality reading much of the media commentary. At some point we're going to come unstuck while others plod by.

    The whole point of an economy is that people make things to be consumed: consumption is what it's all about.

    If people didn't consume what you make you'd be unemployed and unable to consume.
  • ging84
    ging84 Posts: 912 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    pay rises all around?
    i could certainly use one
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Mortgage-free Glee!
    looking forward to being self employed when not in the doldrums (started 2010) !!!!
  • ess0two
    ess0two Posts: 3,606 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Hoping to see Devons response to this.
    Official MR B fan club,dont go............................
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Generali wrote: »
    The whole point of an economy is that people make things to be consumed: consumption is what it's all about.

    If people didn't consume what you make you'd be unemployed and unable to consume.

    UK imports to consume though. All part of the wider problem. Only so many assets to sell.

    UK have the commodities to export that Oz does to balance the books. Though I see prices have slipped this year. Which is making the picture down under less rosy.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Wrong.

    If there's a switch to debt repayment. Then consumption will fall and so will economic growth. Given the UK's dependence on the consumer sector.

    If consumption falls then so will tax receipts (i.e. VAT).

    No one said it was going to be easy.

    You can't have your cake and eat it.

    Right.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    UK imports to consume though. All part of the wider problem. Only so many assets to sell.

    UK have the commodities to export that Oz does to balance the books. Though I see prices have slipped this year. Which is making the picture down under less rosy.





    assets are continually being created


    there isn't a fixed amount : if there were, there would now be none left
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    assets are continually being created


    there isn't a fixed amount : if there were, there would now be none left


    I never said that they weren't.

    What timeline are you looking at into the future?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    UK imports to consume though. All part of the wider problem. Only so many assets to sell.

    UK have the commodities to export that Oz does to balance the books. Though I see prices have slipped this year. Which is making the picture down under less rosy.

    It's a reasonable point however I suspect that the official data are understating the value of services sold abroad.

    Don't forget that getting back to a trade balance will be far more painful for Germany and China than for Britain. They have built their economy on not paying their workers enough to consume what they make. As soon as they pay their workers more realistically they will face massive unemployment problems.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Generali wrote: »
    getting back to a trade balance will be far more painful for Germany and China than for Britain. They have built their economy on not paying their workers enough to consume what they make. As soon as they pay their workers more realistically they will face massive unemployment problems.

    Spot on....
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.