Humans Loosing their jobs to technology

Valli

usac wrote: »

That solves your problem but what about the other men who would prefer human vagina to robot vagina? A women can use a cucumber or any other vegetable/fruit which in turn a man cannot. Penises are easily man made & vagina's aren't.

ANY other? Have you SEEN the size of some watermelons? No way is one of them going where the sun don't shine.

Somebody blown you out OP?

RichardD1970

usac wrote: »

That solves your problem but what about the other men who would prefer human vagina to robot vagina? A women can use a cucumber or any other vegetable/fruit which in turn a man cannot. Penises are easily man made & vagina's aren't.

Your coming across as a clueless 14 year old who has just watched something like Blade Runner for the first time and have got all hot and bothered over Daryl Hannah. :rotfl: (I know I did )

Have a look in any sex shop and you will find a wide variety of artificial vaginas for men to use, some costing hundreds of pounds. :rotfl:

usac

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Your coming across as a clueless 14 year old who has just watched something like Blade Runner for the first time and have got all hot and bothered over Daryl Hannah. :rotfl: (I know I did )

Have a look in any sex shop and you will find a wide variety of artificial vaginas for men to use, some costing hundreds of pounds. :rotfl:

Dildo's were invented before artificial vagina's. Dildo's are somewhat a robot.

usac

DKLS wrote: »

One thing for certain technology is disrupting traditional business models and turning them inside out.
As seen in the music, publishing and Tv, whats next?

Looks like Black cab drivers are doomed if they continue with their current model.

Say goodbye to your job if your a cab driver. The self driving car has arrived.

usac

globalds wrote: »

But the rich will get richer as they won't need to pay wages .

So things won't be so bad

DKLS wrote: »

They were saying the same thing in the 70's, for me its all about skills if you have job ready skills you shouldn't ever be without work for long.

buglawton wrote: »

Humans losing jobs to machines will put the West back on par with Asian cheap labour countries. The Knowledge economy will be stronger than ever. Democratic governments will be forced to redistribute income as much as ever. It'll be up to us humans to focus on our education and keeping fit when machines do so much mechanical stuff for us.

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

If companies don't change then the rich will get poorer and there would be no jobs at all in this country as they will all be outsourced

Ozzuk wrote: »

Let it happen. Let the UK become a leader in robotics and reap the rewards of consistent productivity that can come with it. Increase exports through quality and then government can increase corporate tax and provide the UK with a 'living wage' as per the proposals currently underway in Switzerland. People can then chose to work, or alternatively pursue more intellectual, contemplative or fitness/health based activities.

Works for me!

I'm off to run in the fields now.

RuthnJasper wrote: »

Not a new concept, really...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Industrial_Revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_Riots

Gavin83 wrote: »

I actually can't think of a single job that at some point in the future (I'm thinking our lifetimes here) a robot can't do quicker, better and cheaper.

InsideInsurance wrote: »

They do however breakdown, stop working in a power cut, get stolen, destroyed much more easily in natural catastrophe etc and of cause come with a much higher initial outlay than human staff.

"Robots" isnt a particularly helpful term to use and a broader "technology" is better.

Life moves on, the jobs that exist today are different to those 30 years ago and those are different from 300 years ago and those again different from those 3,000 years ago. It follows then that in 20 years time they will be different again.

Naturally change scares many people, as others have said, there have been many protests about "progress" in the past and again likely in the future. At no point has the world stopped spinning though and people have predominately adapted over time.

Speed of change is accelerating but I dont think there will be a big bang moment, certainly not in my lifetime, when all of a sudden every company can replace every person with technology

Gavin83 wrote: »

Humans can breakdown. I'm also not sure I agree with them being destroyed easier in natural catastrophe either, machines are much more robust than a human body which is in all honesty pretty weak. Any company with a decent amount of computing power will have a UPS solution in place and while I agree the intial outlay is greater the savings are pretty obvious in the long run.

I can still see the advantage of humans in most jobs but given a few decades I think that advantage will start to switch to robotic solutions.

I work in IT. Even in this area I've seen computers replacing staff. We have software that can monitor every server and client machine in our domain, flag up any errors or issues and in a number of cases resolve these issues itself. This is a job that a person would have previously dealt with.



I don't think they'll be a big bang moment but I think the rate at which we see jobs replaced by machines will accelerate and newly created jobs won't keep up. I think it likely that we'll see lower skilled jobs replaced first so there could well be a greater divide between rich and poor. Maybe we'll end up in a science fiction situation where the majority live in an 'underworld' with those few who still have jobs living in futuristic secured buildings elsewhere.

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

Something not touched on here is basic economics, as long as it is cheaper to make, and run robots/technology over people then jobs will move over purely on a cost basis.

BUT the reason they are currently cheaper is based on oil prices and power costs. Like it or not even the most optimistic are saying peak oil has been reached or will be in the next decade. Oil and therefore power and plastic costs are set to rise over and over.

There will reach a point where it becomes more economic to employ a person than run the robot, to farm on a permaculture/organic way than to use tons of machinery and fertilizer based on extracts of oil.

So eventually the whole thing will sort itself out-simples!!

InsideInsurance wrote: »

The advantage of humans though is that they can move. Having spent 2 years looking at Nat Cat claims whenever there has been large floods, earthquakes etc the claims for damaged machinery has always been massively more than the claims for loss of life/ injury.

If a major flood warning is given then staff move out and predominately get to higher ground where as robots on the assembly line are left behind and are damaged in the waters.

UPS is fine for providing a short lifeline to save critical functions etc. I doubt many companies have generators large enough to sustain continuous full production rates on a fully mechanised production line.

Everyone has good points, here is the good part. Companies purchasing robots pay a one time fee, plus maintenance & electric bills really owning the robot not necessarily employing it. Humans have it good when it comes to their salary basically, replacing a human with a robot saves a company 90% in finances as a estimation. What would keep a company from replacing a human with a robot, nothing.
The output of a working robot is far greater & accurate compared to a working human. In this future I expect better merchandise that I purchase due companies savings, work output & accuracy. Basically with a robot a company should have more time & finances to invest in creating greater merchandise. I'm looking forward to flying cars & better space travel.

patman99

With a robot, you don't need to heat/light the place of work (unless humans are also working there), so you save on energy that way.

Seriously though, I have spent several days over the last few weeks working for a producer of jams, preserves and sauces. They are a very labour-intensive company. However, they are planning to build a new factory to replace the hotch-potch of buildings they currently use.

I reckon that at least 80% of the work that goes-on could be done by a fully-automated line. Take one of the lines that bottles the product. They have at least 1 person putting empty bottles onto the conveyor belt. These then pass through a filling machine which is monitored by another human. The lid is then put on by machine (the hopper is filled by human) and then the jars flow to the stacking area where 2 other people remove them and place them on a pallet.

It should be possible to design the line to auto-feed the empties on at one end and auto-palletize them at the other, leaving just one person needed to refill the lid hopper. So reducing the head count by 3 people.

Now, if the firm were to apply this to all the fill lines, finishing lines (where they put on the labels and pack the product), then they could reduce their workforce by 60%.

getmore4less

With technology replacement you have to consider lifecycle.

To get the return on the investment you have to have the productivity gain for long enough to pay for the outlay.

one issue is that tech also reduces barriers to entry.

The risk is that just as you equip a factory with a set of tech someone finds a way to do the same job at 1/2 the price.

People are PAYG which can be cheaper than the 12month contract.

The real threat in the tech world is that the east is educating and they are now innovating which was always the reserve of the west(the east copied).


End of the day food and energy, while they are relatively cheap people have time to earn to pay others to do thing like make them TV's and TV programs.


The crazy thing is we churn things that could last a lot longer if built properly.
That would free up resources.

Once the world labour costs start to equalise there will be a return to quality/longevity.

This could be accelerated by costing in the waste/disposal/lifetime.

amjad87

Well though it's a sad thing. Unfortunately people have wanted change and therefore it comes with downfalls. However I am sure some jobs no matter how much technology comes out still people would be needed for back up purposes.

usac

I'm sorry if I offended anyone by saying the mere fact of a dildo being a robot and it's taking your job. Slap that monkey on robo cop!

Takeaway_Addict

usac wrote: »

I'm sorry if I offended anyone by saying the mere fact of a dildo being a robot and it's taking your job. Slap that monkey on robo cop!

7 days for this bit of genius....