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Humans Loosing their jobs to technology

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  • usac wrote: »
    I'm sure everyone has heard about people loosing their jobs to outsourcing to cheap labor countries, right? Well it seems we are steadily loosing more jobs to technology. Just a thought. How will humans work and make money if robots are invented to do 90% of all jobs currently occupied by humans?


    Yeah I was wondering about this to. I watched a documentary on YouTube about this called "I LOST MY JOB" Its all about people losing their jobs to robots. People will be amazed at what robots can do and unlike humans they don't Complain, Turn up late, Have an attitude problem or make mistakes.
    2.5 Million unemployed vs 0.5 million available jobs.
  • Gavin83
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    I actually can't think of a single job that at some point in the future (I'm thinking our lifetimes here) a robot can't do quicker, better and cheaper.
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 22 July 2014 at 12:41PM
    But do Androids dream of Electric Sheep?

    In my current lifetime, I don't expect to see a highly intelligent AI (we're more likely to see stable fusion reactor). It's not about how fast your computer works - it's about fundamentally understanding how intelligence is formed. It may be that our current computer architecture just isn't right to produce a real intelligence.
  • Gavin83
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    I consider intelligence as the ability to interpret the world around you, learn from your experiences and be able to apply that to future situations. Assuming that definition I'll think we'll see computers with an equal level of intelligence to humans in the next few decades. Computers with the ability to 'think' really aren't that far off. It may never be true intelligence but certainly to the point that you couldn't tell the difference.

    The difficulty is a lack of emotion for computers but who's to say that this also couldn't be programmed?
  • bugslet
    bugslet Posts: 6,874 Forumite
    http://analysis.telematicsupdate.com/v2x-safety/autonomous-truck-convoys-question-when-not-if

    There's already been plenty of trials of driverless trucks. I can't find the link, but I do remember reading that Volvo were trying out a platoon of ten trucks controlled by 1 driver in the first truck.

    A long way off yet, but one day it will arrive.
  • InsideInsurance
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    People will be amazed at what robots can do and unlike humans they don't Complain, Turn up late, Have an attitude problem or make mistakes.

    They do however breakdown, stop working in a power cut, get stolen, destroyed much more easily in natural catastrophe etc and of cause come with a much higher initial outlay than human staff.

    "Robots" isnt a particularly helpful term to use and a broader "technology" is better.

    Life moves on, the jobs that exist today are different to those 30 years ago and those are different from 300 years ago and those again different from those 3,000 years ago. It follows then that in 20 years time they will be different again.

    Naturally change scares many people, as others have said, there have been many protests about "progress" in the past and again likely in the future. At no point has the world stopped spinning though and people have predominately adapted over time.

    Speed of change is accelerating but I dont think there will be a big bang moment, certainly not in my lifetime, when all of a sudden every company can replace every person with technology
  • Gavin83
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    They do however breakdown, stop working in a power cut, get stolen, destroyed much more easily in natural catastrophe etc and of cause come with a much higher initial outlay than human staff.

    Humans can breakdown. I'm also not sure I agree with them being destroyed easier in natural catastrophe either, machines are much more robust than a human body which is in all honesty pretty weak. Any company with a decent amount of computing power will have a UPS solution in place and while I agree the intial outlay is greater the savings are pretty obvious in the long run.

    I can still see the advantage of humans in most jobs but given a few decades I think that advantage will start to switch to robotic solutions.

    I work in IT. Even in this area I've seen computers replacing staff. We have software that can monitor every server and client machine in our domain, flag up any errors or issues and in a number of cases resolve these issues itself. This is a job that a person would have previously dealt with.
    Speed of change is accelerating but I dont think there will be a big bang moment, certainly not in my lifetime, when all of a sudden every company can replace every person with technology

    I don't think they'll be a big bang moment but I think the rate at which we see jobs replaced by machines will accelerate and newly created jobs won't keep up. I think it likely that we'll see lower skilled jobs replaced first so there could well be a greater divide between rich and poor. Maybe we'll end up in a science fiction situation where the majority live in an 'underworld' with those few who still have jobs living in futuristic secured buildings elsewhere.
  • RuthnJasper
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    usac wrote: »
    Let's say your evil father in law buy's your wife a sex robot & as time passes on she starts preferring more robot sex then sex with you. How will you beat a robot in bed with your wife?

    I'm guessing something is probably going seriously awry in a family if a chap buys a "sex robot" for his own daughter...

    USAC - I am sorry to hear that this has happened to you. All I can suggest to help you improve your technique is practice. Makes perfect! ;)
  • ALIBOBSY
    ALIBOBSY Posts: 4,527 Forumite
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    Something not touched on here is basic economics, as long as it is cheaper to make, and run robots/technology over people then jobs will move over purely on a cost basis.

    BUT the reason they are currently cheaper is based on oil prices and power costs. Like it or not even the most optimistic are saying peak oil has been reached or will be in the next decade. Oil and therefore power and plastic costs are set to rise over and over.

    There will reach a point where it becomes more economic to employ a person than run the robot, to farm on a permaculture/organic way than to use tons of machinery and fertilizer based on extracts of oil.

    So eventually the whole thing will sort itself out-simples!!
    "Overthinking every little thing
    Acknowledge the bell you cant unring"

  • geerex
    geerex Posts: 785 Forumite
    usac wrote: »
    Eventually robot's training will consist of a file upload(update) which can take under a minute depending on the size. Now the robot even train's faster then you. What will you do now?

    Quick! There's an "s" at the end of a word!

    APOSTROPHE APOSTROPHE APOSTROPHE! !!!
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