No more gas heating after 2016, true or not?

retiredin2011

After being pestered on the phone by some company to come visit me to give me an energy survey or some such thing to give me £1,000s of government grants I agreed to see what rubbish is being spouted nowadays in the name of green.


Replace my present heating with air pump heating, spend £1,000s, ROI 5 years. (maybe) on a £800 a year gas bill.

Solar panels £7000, 5 years ROI, (maybe) on a £700 a year electricity bill

Spend £1,000s and the government will give me £275 was the gist of it.

He also slipped in that after 2016 no new houses being built would be allowed to have conventional gas heating, (radiators).

He also did the phone my manager bit to see what else could be done.

I don't think I'll get any more phone calls from that place again.

The joys of being retired and waiting for my next holiday.

lstar337

retiredin2011 wrote: »

He also slipped in that after 2016 no new houses being built would be allowed to have conventional gas heating, (radiators).

Only affects new builds so it's not relevant to you, just a scare tactic.

It's something to do with new builds needing to be carbon neutral, though I can see this being changed somewhere along the way. Most of the technology being touted as GCH replacements are unproven.

It'll probably lead to a fall in new build houses, lack of housing supply, sky rocketing house prices, and eventually some backtracking.

ollski

When I first heard that it was supposed to be 2010.

HappyMJ

Not true. If so we'd need to build more power stations as the alternatives use electricity and we don't have enough power stations to support that and they take many years to bring online.

daveyjp

A salesman once came to see me and I knew he was lying as I saw his lips move.

Andy_WSM

HappyMJ wrote: »

Not true. If so we'd need to build more power stations as the alternatives use electricity and we don't have enough power stations to support that and they take many years to bring online.

Well, it is actually true!

The idea is that houses will be built both to passive house standards and have embeded technologies to provide heat & power, making them self sufficient.

Whether or not it will happen by 2016 is the only thing in doubt.

lstar337

Andy_WSM wrote: »

Whether or not it will happen by 2016 is the only thing in doubt.

Yeah, I don't think the technology is quite there yet. I think it'll get pushed back, but it will happen.

Nothing to worry about though, the ban on installations shouldn't affect the end user as the house shouldn't need it anyway.

daveyjp

Passivhaus by 2016. Absolutely no chance.

Code 3 was supposed to be the standard now, but that never happened as cost to build was higher than end value of the property.

Gratis

daveyjp wrote: »

A salesman once came to see me and I knew he was lying as I saw his lips move.

That (ancient) one only works if you use the word "because" instead of "as".

Robisere

Air pump heating does not work in areas where there is a high water table, such as most of the East Coast counties.

Windfarm technology in the British Isles, does not work some of the time in certain months, due to adverse weather conditions, which is why here on the east Coast of Lincolnshire, we get regular power cuts. At the same time, we have hundreds of onshore and offshore windfarms. There is a gathering body of opposition from councils and residents, to new windfarms in this country, especially here in the East. We have the majority of the windfarms and the least benefits from them. I regularly travel through areas where these farms are most numerous and there are many days when the blades are not moving at all.

These "knee-jerk" reactions of British governments to EU climate directives, if acted upon, will make it impossible to maintain a constant, regular, power supply to the whole country.

The nation which once led the way in ending fossil fuel power generation, was Germany. They are now carrying extraction of Lignite (Brown Coal) on a massively industrial scale. This coal is the worst possible material in terms of pollution, it is full of carcinogens and sulphur compounds. Yet no one challenges Germany about this, because they are the financial support to most of the rest of the EU. Under the English east coast, stretching from the old East Midlands coalfields, there are still huge reserves of harder coal. We have the technology to burn this cleanly, so why do we not do that? - Because the weasel words of Cameron about standing up to the EU, mean nothing.

We need more nuclear power stations, if we are prevented from getting this coal. Which will bring out all the usual half-baked protesters, who have no idea where the power for their homes is going to come from, if we do not do that.

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

Build Nuclear and get fracking on with it