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Green taxes -Plastic bags to be banned ??

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  • magyar
    magyar Posts: 18,909 Forumite
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    You have presented a totally mashed up message here Peter. The proper message is REDUCE / reuse / recycle. People should stop patting themselves oin the back for "reuse" and "recycle" .. both are BAD side-effects from their failure to REDUCE.

    I always try to campaign to get REPAIR added into that mantra (I suppose as an alternative to reuse).

    I have been having a fight with our IT department recently: they have a 'policy' that they will not perform any uneconomic repairs, which they actually define as 'if the cost of replacement is less than 150% of the cost of repair'. (Their argument being that replacement means you get newer equipment e.g. a new laptop instead of a three-year old one).

    And this is a company developing renewable energy .... :o
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  • magyar
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    Personally I think free car parking is another issue that should be done away with.

    Fifer wrote: »
    With graduated charges and the places furthest from the shop being free.

    Rather than the opposite. My local 'out of town' supermarket has free parking. My in-town supermarket charges 30p for the first hour.
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  • gravitytolls
    gravitytolls Posts: 13,558 Forumite
    Car parking should be FREE.

    I'd happily pay a surcharge on carriers in exchange for free parking. I then have a choice between paying or providing. If parking were free, local grocers etc would be more frequented, with the knock on effect of highly packaged supermarket produce being sold less, thereby reducing more waste.
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  • Fifer
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    If parking were free, local grocers etc would be more frequented, with the knock on effect of highly packaged supermarket produce being sold less, thereby reducing more waste.
    I think we were talking about supermarket car-parks (at least, I was). I can't see how free supermarket parking helps local small grocers?
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  • magyar
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    Fifer wrote: »
    I think we were talking about supermarket car-parks (at least, I was). I can't see how free supermarket parking helps local small grocers?

    I assumed GT was talking about town centre car parking.
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  • Fifer
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    It is free where I live. :)
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  • magyar
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    Fifer wrote: »
    It is free where I live. :)

    And is there any evidence that benefits the local economy? (I guess it's hard to know unless it suddenly stops being free...)
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  • Fifer
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    Hard to say, as it's always been free. We do have about 9 bakers, three butcher's shops and two fishmongers in the town centre so maybe that's a positive sign? We've lost the two greengrocers though.
    There's love in this world for everyone. Every rascal and son of a gun.
    It's for the many and not the few. Be sure it's out there looking for you.
    In every town, in every state. In every house and every gate.
    Wth every precious smile you make. And every act of kindness.
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  • Gingham_Ribbon
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    I would object to paying for supermarket parking. It's bad enough that many small towns and villages have lost their local shops and to get food and clothes they have to go out of town, but to make people who are fortunate enough to actually be able to get there pay for the priviledge? No, I don't like that idea.

    There are people in my home town struggling because there is nowhere locally to get the things they need any more. They have to go to neighbouring towns or further afield (to Ayr.) A pain for those who drive, a major inconvenience for those who can use public transport, a nightmare for those who can't.

    Making people spend more and more money, on carriers, on parking, on refuse collection, on road tax...if's just not the answer. It is continuing to make the poor struggle even more and doing little for the environment. (It's increasing profits for business and generating money for the government though.)
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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Fifer wrote: »
    I think we were talking about supermarket car-parks (at least, I was). I can't see how free supermarket parking helps local small grocers?

    It doesnt. It helps the supermarket. It is a business afterall, and isn't there to make it easier for other business's to do better than it.

    Council charges for parking in towns round here can be anything from 10p for 30 mins in the 'towns' with nothing in, like the small one I live in. A town where people actually go to though to shop and your looking at £2 for half an hour to park.

    Where I work is a tourist hotspot. Parking is £6 for 3 hours. £4.50 for 2 hours. £3.00 for one hour and £2 for half an hour.

    You can't park longer than 3 hours and it's the only car park in the place.

    I'd rather go a supermarket and park for free to use the shop, not pay to use the shop.
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