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Penalty point before having a licence

enrich100
enrich100 Posts: 136 Forumite
I am trying to help a you man who is trying every so hard to turn his life around when he was 17 he made the bad decision to use a motorbike without a licence and insurance and was involved in and accident (no one injured apart from himself). because he was uninsured and unlicensed he was taken to court fined, ordered to pay compensation and was given six penalty points on a licence he didn't have

now 5 years on he is a totally different person. he knows he made a a major mistake.
During our meeting this week I suggested that as he lives in a rural area he would have better employment prospects if he could drive.

I would really like to know the following questions so that I can help him further

1. if he applies for a licence will it still have the points on it?
2. if he does have six points (from 5 years ago) will he be able to take a driving test

if your going to tell me what he did was wrong or how he should never get his licence back please save your time

If you can help me help this young man who I feel deserves another chance then thank you for your time

Comments

  • Nodding_Donkey
    Nodding_Donkey Posts: 2,738 Forumite
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    Points count towards totting up for three years and stay on the licence for four years so I would say he didn't have to worry.

    Insurance companies usually ask about offences in the last 5 years so that wouldn't be a problem either.

    Good luck to him :)
  • Aretnap
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    If he'd applied for his licence much sooner the points would have appeared on it and, while they would not have stopped him getting a licence, they would have counted towards revocation unde the New Drivers Act, so if he'd got any points at all within two years of passing his test he'd have gone back to learner status.

    However they've long ceased to be relevant for those purposes, and if the conviction was over five years ago it doesn't even have to be declared to insurers. Actually if he was under 18 at the time of the conviction it becomes spent even sooner than that.

    People are entitled not to be blighted forever by stupid things they did as teenagers. Good luck to him.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    I used to ride a moped and in recent years have considered getting one to use alongside my regular car. The idea was that I'd save some money. Truth is, owning even a moped is a cost that doesn't save that much money.

    However, there is a neater solution. Electric bikes. While not particularly "cool", you do get to be mobile and at a cheaper price than a moped. There's no license required, no tax, no MoT.

    He could be mobile, cheaper- and have less opportunity to "get into trouble" with legal issues.

    Randomly walking past a bike shop the other day I saw one for £200..... bit of a bargain.....
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    I used to ride a moped and in recent years have considered getting one to use alongside my regular car. The idea was that I'd save some money.
    Truth is, owning even a moped is a cost that doesn't save that much money.
    However, there is a neater solution. Electric bikes. While not particularly "cool", you do get to be mobile and at a cheaper price than a moped. There's no license required, no tax, no MoT.

    He could be mobile, cheaper- and have less opportunity to "get into trouble" with legal issues.

    Randomly walking past a bike shop the other day I saw one for £200..... bit of a bargain.....

    How fast do the electric bikes go though?

    I think many would disagree as to the cost of running a moped. For starters, insurance is often significantly lower on a ped than a car. For a younger person this saving could easily exceed £1k. A decent bike can be bought for a fraction of the cost of a decent car and maintenance won't be greater. So over all the saving can be massive!
  • enrich100
    enrich100 Posts: 136 Forumite
    Thank you to each and everyone of you for you replies I am grateful for the help you have given. from past experience (mainly on other forums)
    many of those replying would not be willing to give people a second chance so I really appreciate the non judgemental replies.
    I do appreciate the advice on using an electric bike but I was actually suggesting he gets a car licence as almost all applications he has seen for employment state that having a driving licence is essential or at the very least is preferred. I will pass your advice on to him so that he can make an informed choice
  • Iceweasel
    Iceweasel Posts: 4,842 Forumite
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    Tell him to get that licence applied for - right away.

    Good luck to the guy.
  • Aretnap
    Aretnap Posts: 5,546 Forumite
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    The posts about mopeds and electric bikes seem a bit out of place - were they actually intended for this thread?

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5010113
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