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fiesta 1.8d, black smoke and lack of power

hi all,

i've got a 98 fiesta with the 1.8 non turbo'd diesel engine, it's got the plastic inlet manifold, so no egr as i understand it.

when i accelerate there's a lack of power and a fair bit of black smoke. if you keep accelerating and get the revs up it clears, pulls pretty hard for what it is and the smoke disappears. with quick gear changes you can keep it pulling, but if you lift off it needs to be cleared again. i pulled the pipe off the air box to rule out the air filter and it's had a recent fuel filter.

i'm leaning towards a dodgy injector, but i'm not that clued up, any ideas?


cheers, steve

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  • CrazyRed
    CrazyRed Posts: 254 Forumite
    If it was an injector fault, you'd have black smoke all the time.

    Lack of power and black smoke is generally caused by not enough air for the amount of fuel injected - as the inlet manifold is on top of the exhaust on that engine (IIRC), are you certain you don't have an EGR valve? The symptoms really do point to it, especially your comment about it going well once the revs (and thus airflow) rise.

    I'd have thought that a 98 would be EGR'd - my own 98 motor is (although I've blanked it off, of course!).

    I'd also check for any restrictions on the inlet side - inlet pipe, inlet manifold - that can also cause the symptoms you describe.

    HTH
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  • stevieboy308
    stevieboy308 Posts: 48 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 3 July 2014 at 6:15PM
    CrazyRed wrote: »
    If it was an injector fault, you'd have black smoke all the time.

    Lack of power and black smoke is generally caused by not enough air for the amount of fuel injected - as the inlet manifold is on top of the exhaust on that engine (IIRC), are you certain you don't have an EGR valve? The symptoms really do point to it, especially your comment about it going well once the revs (and thus airflow) rise.

    I'd have thought that a 98 would be EGR'd - my own 98 motor is (although I've blanked it off, of course!).

    I'd also check for any restrictions on the inlet side - inlet pipe, inlet manifold - that can also cause the symptoms you describe.

    HTH


    you're right, it's got an egr valve!

    is it just stick a metal plate between it and the manifold?


    cheers, steve
  • CrazyRed
    CrazyRed Posts: 254 Forumite
    ....... and therein lies your problem!

    Yup, simple blanking plate, and there will be no more problems from the EGR valve.
    PLEASE NOTE:

    I limit myself to responding to threads where I feel I have enough knowledge to make a useful contribution. My advice (and indeed any advice on this type of forum) should only be seen as a pointer to something you may wish to investigate further. Never act on any forum advice without confirmation from an accountable source.
  • stevieboy308
    stevieboy308 Posts: 48 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    CrazyRed wrote: »
    ....... and therein lies your problem!

    Yup, simple blanking plate, and there will be no more problems from the EGR valve.

    one bean tin lid (it's all i had at this time of day!) with a load of silicone and the fiesta is fixed,

    cheers fella, you've been a great help:beer:


    thanks, steve
  • CrazyRed
    CrazyRed Posts: 254 Forumite
    You're more than welcome. Glad I could help.
    PLEASE NOTE:

    I limit myself to responding to threads where I feel I have enough knowledge to make a useful contribution. My advice (and indeed any advice on this type of forum) should only be seen as a pointer to something you may wish to investigate further. Never act on any forum advice without confirmation from an accountable source.
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