Video: Why an independent Scotland would be financially better off

IveSeenTheLight

CLAPTON wrote: »

If there are no economic benefits of the union for both parties sharing a small Island, why do you want to join the EU?

If you want your own 'Scottish' immigration policy free from the English why are you will to let Brussels run it instead?

There is only one answer.

There is not only one answer.

In response to your two questions, there are many individual pro's and con's when assessing whether Independence is an attractive proposition or not.
You have to weigh all of these up and come up with an individual consideration of whether you agree Independence overall is worthwhile or not.

No one point will make or break the decision.

For instance, in Europe (as you ask), I see instances where it may not be best to be in Europe and others where it is.
Finland is a good example of a similar sized nation who is part of the EU, Denmark and Sweden are good examples of similar sized countries who are not EU members

I wonder, Why are you (Westminster) keen to keep the union but also keen to break away from Europe?

George Osborne raised the prospect of Britain leaving the European Union if the 28-nation bloc fails to undertake fundamental reforms to improve competitiveness, create jobs and protect the rights of countries which are not in the single currency.

The Chancellor suggested that if the UK was unable to secure support for reform from all EU states, it was ready to press ahead with a smaller group of like-minded countries under what he termed "enhanced co-operation".

Sounds like GO also likes the model the Yes Campaign are aspiring to be like (Denmark, Sweden etC)

CLAPTON

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

There is not only one answer.

In response to your two questions, there are many individual pro's and con's when assessing whether Independence is an attractive proposition or not.
You have to weigh all of these up and come up with an individual consideration of whether you agree Independence overall is worthwhile or not.

No one point will make or break the decision.

For instance, in Europe (as you ask), I see instances where it may not be best to be in Europe and others where it is.
Finland is a good example of a similar sized nation who is part of the EU, Denmark and Sweden are good examples of similar sized countries who are not EU members

I wonder, Why are you (Westminster) keen to keep the union but also keen to break away from Europe?

George Osborne raised the prospect of Britain leaving the European Union if the 28-nation bloc fails to undertake fundamental reforms to improve competitiveness, create jobs and protect the rights of countries which are not in the single currency.

The Chancellor suggested that if the UK was unable to secure support for reform from all EU states, it was ready to press ahead with a smaller group of like-minded countries under what he termed "enhanced co-operation".

Sounds like GO also likes the model the Yes Campaign are aspiring to be like (Denmark, Sweden etC)

there is clearly, one make or break issue and it's not the EU

IveSeenTheLight

CLAPTON wrote: »

there is clearly, one make or break issue and it's not the EU

Again, thats just your narrow viewed perception.

You ask about EU and then state that's not the issue

Most of us recognise that there are a number of issues to consider as part of weighing up which way to vote.

CLAPTON

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Again, thats just your narrow viewed perception.

You ask about EU and then state that's not the issue

Most of us recognise that there are a number of issues to consider as part of weighing up which way to vote.

the issue is why you want to break a 300 old year union with your major trading partner, on the faux grounds of wanting independence to make your own decision, and in the same breath intend to give away all those freedoms.

There is only one answer .

IveSeenTheLight

CLAPTON wrote: »

the issue is why you want to break a 300 old year union with your major trading partner, on the faux grounds of wanting independence to make your own decision, and in the same breath intend to give away all those freedoms.

There is only one answer .

Why are we giving away freedoms from the current situation?

For some, with a narrow mindset, there is only one answer

chewmylegoff

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

For instance, in Europe (as you ask), I see instances where it may not be best to be in Europe and others where it is.
Finland is a good example of a similar sized nation who is part of the EU, Denmark and Sweden are good examples of similar sized countries who are not EU members

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Sounds like GO also likes the model the Yes Campaign are aspiring to be like (Denmark, Sweden etC)

Errr, Denmark and Sweden are both members of the EU.

IveSeenTheLight

chewmylegoff wrote: »

Errr, Denmark and Sweden are both members of the EU.

Your right, for a moment I was thinking about currency and GDP.
Of course I meant Norway

sharnad

Not another scottish independence thread. Why can't people just post on the main one

CLAPTON

sharnad wrote: »

Not another scottish independence thread. Why can't people just post on the main one

what are size 6 jeans?

Enterprise_1701C

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

That's an interesting concept.
Why then are the Better Together parties so keen to keep the union?
There has to be a reason. Please give your thoughts on why if Scotland is a burden to the UK, that keeping the Union is best for RoUK.

The facts are that Scotland has a better GDP than the RoUK bar London and the South East.

They want to keep Scotland to help support the rest of the RoUK regions.

I don't know the absolute ins and outs, although North Sea oil will disappear before too long.

The main reason I want Scotland gone is they keep Labour in power. The Labour party that left a note when they had finished saying all the money had gone. The Labour party that actively tried to ruin the Britishness of the country. Blair should be prosecuted for what he did to the country, Brown was plain incompetent and would never have been elected, and God help is if Minibrand ever gets in, the country would be finished.

This is also why Labour are part of the better together - they want to have a chance to finish wrecking the economy and forcing us into closer union with the EU, whereby the UK would totally disappear anyway, the EU do not like single national identities, they are trying to swallow the whole of Europe. Remind you of anything.?

That is why I want Scotland to be independent.