Emloyed/self emloyed club steward?

kylestucon

Hi , Sorry but there is a letter not working on my keyboard so you will have to guess some of this. I am going for an interview today for a stewards job in a club. Have just found out that they want to offer my a set amount wage £300 a week if i live in or £360 a week if i live out. They also want me to be self emloyed {guess so they dont have to ay my tax and ni} they also state that as self emloyed i wont get holiday ay. Can i be self emloyed as steward of a club as the committee will have a final say on the running of the club and i will work for them.I will only work at that club and live above the club. I am a bit worried as i wont have as many emloyment rights and didnt think that i would be classed as self emloyed, but they say they have looked into it and there is nothing to say i cant be self emloyed. Anyone out there confirm this for me. thanks

Undervalued

Probably not. However getting this wrong is almost entirely the "employer's" problem rather than yours.

For tax purposes HMRC have an online guide to employment / self employment status (although it is a little skewed towards the employed answer).

However that is just for tax purposes. For "employment" rights it can happen that a tribunal would take a different view to HMRC. Neither is binding on the other.

Remember though that for the first two years you have little employment protection even if you are PAYE employed. It is actually possible to write self employed "contracts for services" that put you in a stronger position than an employee but that all depends on the strength of your negotiating position.

The statutory minimum holiday (for a full time employee) is 28 days. This equates to 12.7% of your salary so if self employed you need at least this amount extra.

If you are legitimately self employed there are various tax advantages so it is not totally one sided.

kylestucon

Thanks for your quick answer. Still not too sure what to say to them. Had a look on hmrc website but it does not seem to be clear cut and still unsure. Not sure if it would work out better for ME to be self emloyed or emloyed. Is it still two years if emloyed i thought it was now one but i am sure that you will be right. will see what comes if i am eventually offered the job and think of questions i will need to ask. Thanks again x

Undervalued

kylestucon wrote: »

Is it still two years if emloyed i thought it was now one but i am sure that you will be right.

Yes, two years.

It used to be one year and remained so for those where were employed before the change so that they were not disadvantaged.

kylestucon

what are the advantages for me being self emloyed? i am also currently emloyed in another job which i would be keeing for the time being one job in mornings the other days/nights would i also have to change this job to being self emloyed. once again sorry for the few missing keys on my keyboard hoe this makes sense.

Undervalued

kylestucon wrote: »

what are the advantages for me being self emloyed? i am also currently emloyed in another job which i would be keeing for the time being one job in mornings the other days/nights would i also have to change this job to being self emloyed.

No, you can be employed PAYE in one job and self employed in addition (e.g. part time business).

Advantages are probably minimal in this case. You can offset certain expenses against tax. Travelling expenses is an obvious one although, officially, you can't claim the cost of travelling to a "regular" place of work. Maybe a percentage of your phone calls and, if you use one, any accountants fees.

Some steward type jobs give the opportunity of earning extra money. For example, being paid a modest wage to run the bar and keep it clean but being allowed to make and sell food as your own enterprise. If so, then that would help tip it towards self employment.

kylestucon

Ok thanks for your time undervalued!!