School trips

ViolaLass

emsywoo123 wrote: »

This is what happens on our school's camping trips.....

Seems a bit OTT - I doubt many parents do the same. When I helped on a camping trip, we just made it clear which tents were ours and made sure the kids were in their beds at the expected time.

ViolaLass

kathrynha wrote: »

Admittedly we are volunteers, not paid staff like on a school trip, but I'm sure the staff don't get paid extra for the trip, despite the fact their normal working day has been expanded to 24 hours.

If the trip is during the school holidays, the teachers most likely aren't being paid anything for giving up their holiday time.

Counting_Pennies_2

whodathunkit wrote: »

I'm not sure what you mean in this bit - are you saying teachers are expected keep watch all night when taking a camping trip? Surely you can't mean this?

Yes our school have two teachers who sit up over night on camping trips.


They are in a public field so two teachers sit around a camp fire and stay awake all night

mandragora_2

There's a very simple answer. Take your children (and, if you're feeling generous, a group of their friends) away yourself. That way you will be able to supervise and oversee everything, and nothing will be done by the adults that you don't approve of. Residential trips are not generally a compulsory part of a child's education.

KateBob

kathrynha wrote: »

Never been on a school residential as an adult, but I am a Guide leader, so have experience of taking other peoples children away.


If the girls saw the rather giddy behaviour of the leaders at times on camp, they might assume lots of alcohol has been consumed (and potentially incorrectly report it back to parents), but it is just adults having a laugh.

This is true on scout camps too

Counting_Pennies wrote: »

Yes our school have two teachers who sit up over night on camping trips.


They are in a public field so two teachers sit around a camp fire and stay awake all night

On scout camp you usually get about an hour between the last "He's snoring/She's lying on my mat/I need the toilet" and the first "Is it time to get up yet?"
This doesn't sound like too much more

Mojoworking

That was a bit harsh you are trusting people with the most important thing in your life and you do have irrational feelings - it is what it is.

I don't think teachers have to go in their contracts I think they go as the kids have fab times and remember them years later.

I do guiding and after each one swear I won't again but that is because some parents don't drop off on time don't pick up on time don't pack what is needed in the kit list don't tell you if you have a bed wetter and rarely do any say thank you. That's my rant and probably similar to schools.

I don't drink none of us do thst is choice I think as long as two people can drive it is ok but we choose not to a ss it is such an emotive area. Hence this thread I suppose.

My friend is a secondary school teacher and did have a glass at the end of the day and I would trust her to be responsible regardless if she'd had none or three. I asked if people got drunk and she said in the past yes but things were different - which is true in most jobs. Im admin and years ago we all drank at lunch now we'd be in trouble times change. She also said that basically if a teacher was a bit of a lush if would pee the other teachers off and they wouldn't be on another trip. Everyone needs to be pulling their weight even more so when away.

The only thing I've read on mums net was the green cup thread which was hilarious.

kathrynha

Kate/Bob wrote: »

On scout camp you usually get about an hour between the last "He's snoring/She's lying on my mat/I need the toilet" and the first "Is it time to get up yet?"
This doesn't sound like too much more

Totally right, only a couple of hours where they are all asleep/quiet.

Got to admit I never sleep that well on camp anyway when I am the one totally in charge. 24 children in your care, like I had last weekend is quite a responsibility. My alcohol came once the girls had all been handed back to their parents and the equipment put away on the Sunday evening.

Counting_Pennies_2

mandragora wrote: »

There's a very simple answer. Take your children (and, if you're feeling generous, a group of their friends) away yourself. That way you will be able to supervise and oversee everything, and nothing will be done by the adults that you don't approve of. Residential trips are not generally a compulsory part of a child's education.

If you don't sign your child up for the trips you are pulled to one side by the teachers and told they need to go. There is no choice. Spending £200 on a required school trip (yes in state school). So it is the responsibility of the teachers to ensure they stick to the rules of ratings of films, and they ensure the children are well cared for.

Mojoworking

And the film I don't know. I just ask. I probably am the parent they hate but if I'm sure or want clarification then I will. Better than listening to anything on the yard and the other thread mentioned social media as well which is always a bad Way to go.

Mojoworking

Counting_Pennies wrote: »

If you don't sign your child up for the trips you are pulled to one side by the teachers and told they need to go. There is no choice. Spending £200 on a required school trip (yes in state school). So it is the responsibility of the teachers to ensure they stick to the rules of ratings of films, and they ensure the children are well cared for.

Seriously? What if you can't afford it?