Tribunal & Witness statements

vexed_wasp

everyone is so judgemental on here

thanks a bunch !!!

Lioness_Twinkletoes

My (vague) understanding is that you have to submit a witness statement for yourself as well as everyone else. Besides, better too much info. than too little.

No idea if you'll even win - let alone get two year's salary. Out of curiosity, what was their counter offer?

vexed_wasp

thank you
i have made a start on my statement today and am trying hard not to repeat myself

their offer was £8000 which i rejected

i was told by the court clerk that i had an excellent chance of winning, but i know it all depends on the day

i am prepared to have my days in court and walk away with nothing if i lose.

crazycatlady1984

vexed_wasp wrote: »

thank you
i have made a start on my statement today and am trying hard not to repeat myself

their offer was £8000 which i rejected

i was told by the court clerk that i had an excellent chance of winning, but i know it all depends on the day

i am prepared to have my days in court and walk away with nothing if i lose.

The court clerk told you you had an "excellent chance of winning"? Are you sure? Could you have misunderstood what this person was saying? That sounds very odd to me.

vexed_wasp

crazycatlady1984 wrote: »

The court clerk told you you had an "excellent chance of winning"? Are you sure? Could you have misunderstood what this person was saying? That sounds very odd to me.

i thought it was strange also and am assuming she wasnt meant to do this.

she hurried to catch up with me on the way out of the court and said "i just wanted to let you know you have a really good case with an excellent chance of winning".

i thanked her for doing this and went on my way.

makeyourdaddyproud

vexed_wasp wrote: »

...i am prepared to have my days in court and walk away with nothing if i lose.

You might walk away with a huge bill for their costs via a counter claim.

Judgment could say your original offer was reasonable (based on salary, time served etc), after learning of your ridiculous request for 2 years salary.

vexed_wasp

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

You might walk away with a huge bill for their costs via a counter claim.

Judgment could say your original offer was reasonable (based on salary, time served etc), after learning of your ridiculous request for 2 years salary.

really?
ACAS have said it is entirely up to me if i want to settle or if i would rather go to court?
so i could be penalised by not accepting their initial offer?

the 2 years net salary request was not plucked from thin air, it was based on the discrimination involved and my length of service, loss of pension etc.
i did receive legal help with this but cannot afford any more solicitors fees incase i do not win.

can i just ask tho - why people feel the need to attack people who seek advice on this site?

i am a long time user (over 10 years) who posts daily - i can now see why new members do not return.

makeyourdaddyproud

vexed_wasp wrote: »

really?
ACAS have said it is entirely up to me if i want to settle or if i would rather go to court?
so i could be penalised by not accepting their initial offer?

the 2 years net salary request was not plucked from thin air, it was based on the discrimination involved and my length of service, loss of pension etc.
i did receive legal help with this but cannot afford any more solicitors fees incase i do not win.

can i just ask tho - why people feel the need to attack people who seek advice on this site?

i am a long time user (over 10 years) who posts daily - i can now see why new members do not return.

It's certainly possible you could end up with a large bill. 2 whole years' salary seems excessive, but you have realise there is a possibility judgment could also decide this, and reject your claim. Do you want that?

If it were me, I would wait and see if a better out of court offer materialises from the first rejection, as the first one is nearly always low ball.

Long time poster? This ID shows you as a newbie?

Takeaway_Addict

The average award at a tribunal for discrimination is at best 16k and more likely between 8-10k
http://www.morton-fraser.com/knowledge-hub/employment-tribunal-statistics-2012-2013

What was your yearly wage so we can compare how their offer fared?

As hard as it is you need to take the emotion out of this and act like a business and work out the optimum outcome. Remember that in the vast majority of jobs there is no right to a reference so if you go all the way you may win more money but you'll not get a reference whereas if you accept an offer you can shoehorn a reasonable reference out of them


Edited to add...looks like the OP is having some fun....http://www.redundancyforum.co.uk/employment-help-advice-employees/7811-how-can-i-dismiss-disabled-employee/

vexed_wasp

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

The average award at a tribunal for discrimination is at best 16k and more likely between 8-10k
http://www.morton-fraser.com/knowledge-hub/employment-tribunal-statistics-2012-2013

What was your yearly wage so we can compare how their offer fared?

As hard as it is you need to take the emotion out of this and act like a business and work out the optimum outcome. Remember that in the vast majority of jobs there is no right to a reference so if you go all the way you may win more money but you'll not get a reference whereas if you accept an offer you can shoehorn a reasonable reference out of them


Edited to add...looks like the OP is having some fun....http://www.redundancyforum.co.uk/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=28741

i am having no fun. i dont understand why they have added my message to another one - its nothing to do with my tribunal

but anyway this forum is full of judgemental people who hav enothing better to do with their time than try to trip people off

another newbie who wont be back

well done everyone

makeyourdaddyproud

vexed_wasp wrote: »

i am having no fun. i dont understand why they have added my message to another one - its nothing to do with my tribunal

but anyway this forum is full of judgemental people who hav enothing better to do with their time than try to trip people off

another newbie who wont be back

well done everyone

Make your mind up. Long time poster or newbie?

Good riddance I say.