We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Primary residence then let out?

Quick query: If I move house but keep my existing house and rent it out what happens to my capital gains allowance?

When I sell my original house do I pay capital gains on the difference from when I bought it or just on the change in value from when it stopped being my main residence?

If the latter then surely you can fix it to some extent by arranging a high valuation?
«1

Comments

  • thequant
    thequant Posts: 1,220 Forumite
    Broontoon wrote: »
    Quick query:


    Quick Answer: Fraud and Tax evasion is illegal
  • Not suggesting either - just asking a question about how the rules work.
  • Debt_Free_Chick
    Debt_Free_Chick Posts: 13,276 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    You could start with HMRC's guidance here
    Warning ..... I'm a peri-menopausal axe-wielding maniac ;)
  • Thanks - had a look through those notes but still doesn't really answer the question
  • Annie1960
    Annie1960 Posts: 3,009 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    It is based on:

    The actual price you paid for it
    The actual price you sell it for

    There is no valuation needed.

    You get reliefs for the time you were living there, and for the final 18 months.

    The link in post no 4 does give you all the information you need.
  • Thanks, My main concern is that the house I am planning to keep and rent out has appreciated in value considerably over the time I have lived in it. If I sold it now I would pay no capital gains but I have lived in it as my primary residence for 16 years. I do not want all of that capital appreciation (less any allowances) to now be taxable.
  • ChumpusRex
    ChumpusRex Posts: 352 Forumite
    The rules are very simple. They are based on:

    The price paid
    The price sold
    The length of ownership
    The length of occupancy
    Any allowances.

    Everything else is irrelevant.

    So, if you bought for £100k, lived there for 10 years, then let for 5 years, then sold for £300k.

    The calculation would be £200k gains over 15 years = £13.3k per year

    10 years allowed for primary residence
    1.5 years allowed for final allowance

    Gain eligible for CGT = 3.5 x £13.333 = £47k

    The fact that at the time you started letting, the value was £350k and the house has not made any gains during the period of letting is irrelevant.
  • Annie1960
    Annie1960 Posts: 3,009 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    ChumpusRex wrote: »
    The rules are very simple. They are based on:

    The price paid
    The price sold
    The length of ownership
    The length of occupancy
    Any allowances.

    Everything else is irrelevant.

    So, if you bought for £100k, lived there for 10 years, then let for 5 years, then sold for £300k.

    The calculation would be £200k gains over 15 years = £13.3k per year

    10 years allowed for primary residence
    1.5 years allowed for final allowance

    Gain eligible for CGT = 3.5 x £13.333 = £47k

    The fact that at the time you started letting, the value was £350k and the house has not made any gains during the period of letting is irrelevant.

    The calculation is done in months, and each person gets an annual capital gain allowance (currently £11,000).
  • Freecall
    Freecall Posts: 1,337 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I'm afraid that this is correct. Several people got 'stung' in the period after 2009 when house prices fell and they found themselves with a CGT bill even though they had made a 'loss'.

    Unfortunately however the rules are quite prescriptive so you don't get any say in the process.
  • chris_aaaaa
    chris_aaaaa Posts: 130 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    @freecall - never heard of this one, other than for LL who ratchet up the mortgage with the value.


    @OP - Also check out private residence relief (http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/cgmanual/CG64737.htm) and if you have owned it for a long time I think there might be some tapered relief.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 259.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.