CPP parking notice

JonnyB1982

I received a CPP notice whilst parked at Manchester Royal Infirmary on Wednesday. I had purchased a ticket but I had 'not parked wholly within a designated parking bay'. I've had a search on the forum (been reading it on and off for years) and saw a few threads from a couple of years ago. Is it still the case that this would be unenforceable as it is presumably from a private company? Any quick advice appreciated.

Redx

quick advice ? , yes

read the NEWBIES sticky thread at the top of this forum, all you need to know in there

JonnyB1982

Thanks, had a good read through.

Does anybody know who I should complain to at the hospital (to try and get the fine removed) before I wait for the NTK? I've had a search but not managed to find anything. I spend half my life there having had a kidney transplant but not noticed anything regarding this.

Also the notice says 'A CHARGE OF £60.00 IS DUE WITHIN 28 DAYS OF THE DATE OF ISSUE A discounted amount of £20.00 will be accepted in full and final settlement if recived within 14 days of the date of this notice.

Does this mine the fine would be £20 or reduced by £20 to £40?

Thanks
Jon

JonnyB1982

Seen a link now, so I send a letter addressed to the centre/facility manager at the hospital, and to PALS.

Coupon-mad

That's a good start. If not, we'll help you win the appeal.

JonnyB1982

The car park manager got in touch and said he won't do anything as the camera shows I wasn't in a designated bay. I really don't want to pay but if the fine is £20 then it may be worth it just to avoid the hassle of all the appeals.

JonnyB1982

Links removed

I've been back to take some photos, linked without the http://
They are the main signs in the carpark. I was not parked in a designated bay as there were no spaces, but parked next to another car and was not blocking or impeding anybody. I purchased a ticket for £3 so obviously saw the sign in photo 2 but did not notice the Car Parking Partnership sign in picture 1 as it was on the opposite side of the road.

Picture 4 is where I was parked- black ford.

Would I be able to appeal this and win or is the £20 fine not 'excessive' for any losses I may have caused?

bazster

JonnyB1982 wrote: »

The car park manager got in touch and said he won't do anything as the camera shows I wasn't in a designated bay. I really don't want to pay but if the fine is £20 then it may be worth it just to avoid the hassle of all the appeals.

How does £16 sound?

http://www.parkingticketappeals.org.uk/

JonnyB1982

bazster wrote: »

How does £16 sound?


:mad: (Please lengthen my message to at least 10 characters) :mad:

:eek:

Coupon-mad

How does £16 sound?
:eek:

Don't get us wrong - that is just one option and bazster is not connected to that site (neither am I). But we can vouch for it because it is run by two posters here and for £16 they will do the appeal take it off your hands & will pay the £60 if they lose. That's better than you paying CPP £20 because it's £4 less for you to shell out and we KNOW the PTA appeal will win!

However you will win at POPLA anyway if you DIY the appeal with our help, if you have a bit of time to do so. And you should complain to the BPA about this sign:

http://s1210.photobucket.com/user/Jonbek82/media/CPP_zps6dfc5b9c.jpg.html

It still says they can clamp cars (which is ILLEGAL). They also call their charge a 'civil penalty' which helps your POPLA appeal as well, because a penalty is not recoverable in contract law. And the BPA banned the use of the word 'penalty' in their Code of practice years ago.

Wow, penalties and clamps again, you were certainly entitled to believe this was an old sign seeing as penalties are not recoverable and clamping has been illegal since 2012!

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc414/Jonbek82/CPP1_zpsa6ad8caf.jpg

Unclear obscured signage:

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc414/Jonbek82/CPP2_zpsaa5debeb.jpg

Looks like a bay, has a white line on the left and no yellow hashings/boxes to stop parking there:

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc414/Jonbek82/CPP3_zpsc1118603.jpg

Would I be able to appeal this and win or is the £20 fine not 'excessive' for any losses I may have caused?

Yes you can appeal this and you can either let PTA do it for £16 or we'll help you DIY. You have caused no loss/damages and you paid the tariff so there was no initial loss anyway. If you want to do this yourself just read the NEWBIES thread and WAIT for the Notice to Keeper to arrive next month or so, as long as you are the keeper.

Dee140157

Those signs are definitely a gift for the appeal.

Having now seen where the car is parked, I would suggest removing the links for those from your post and asking C-M to do the same as they of course give identifying information .