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Corporate Services Hereford

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  • JamersPad
    JamersPad Posts: 28 Forumite
    Ok I have added this section to the end of part 3
    Corporate Services (Parking Management) does not own this car park and is merely an agent of the landowner or legal occupier. In its notice and rejection letters Corporate Services (Parking Management) has provided me with no evidence that it is lawfully entitled to demand money from a driver or keeper. I put Corporate Services (Parking Management) to strict proof to POPLA that it has the proper legal authorisation from the landowner to contract with drivers and to enforce charges in its own name as creditor in the courts for breach of contract. I demand Corporate Services (Parking Management) produce to POPLA the contemporaneous and unredacted contract between the landowner and the Corporate Services (Parking Management).

    Do I need to change the wording, I read somewhere about breach of contract being different to contractual and on their signage (see images) they use the words contractual
  • Coupon-mad
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    That looks fine if they are alleging breach. Are they? Don't be fooled by the fact they may have bunged in the words 'contractually agreeing' onto a sign. Most PPCs do not word their signs as contractual fee (tariff in exchange for the right to park).
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  • JamersPad
    JamersPad Posts: 28 Forumite
    JamersPad wrote: »
    As you can see I have never done this before so all of your help and advice is appreciated.

    As it is summertime could they argue that it was not dark at 8.20pm a few weeks ago, which is wasn't or is that irrelevant ?

    Advice on this part please?
  • da_rule
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    The can argue that, but it is up to them to prove it, which may prove tricky.
  • JamersPad
    JamersPad Posts: 28 Forumite
    da_rule wrote: »
    The can argue that, but it is up to them to prove it, which may prove tricky.

    Good point okay I will add that in and post my letter on here for another check over.
  • JamersPad
    JamersPad Posts: 28 Forumite
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    That looks fine if they are alleging breach. Are they? Don't be fooled by the fact they may have bunged in the words 'contractually agreeing' onto a sign. Most PPCs do not word their signs as contractual fee (tariff in exchange for the right to park).


    On their sign it merely says that by entering the car park (assuming that I saw the sign in the first instance of course) I am contractually agreeing to pay the charges as advertised.

    So would you change the wording then?
  • nigelbb
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    JamersPad wrote: »
    On their sign it merely says that by entering the car park (assuming that I saw the sign in the first instance of course) I am contractually agreeing to pay the charges as advertised.?

    EXACT wording of the sign please. This is very important.
  • JamersPad
    JamersPad Posts: 28 Forumite
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    The usual rubbish ... you can't engage a contract to specifically breach the terms of contract.
  • nigelbb
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    bod1467 wrote: »
    The usual rubbish ... you can't engage a contract to specifically breach the terms of contract.
    Correct! Do you see why I asked for the EXACT wording?

    The sign very clearly states PERMIT HOLDERS ONLY and ALL VeHICLES MUST DISPLAY A VALID PERMIT AT ALL TIMES so anybody who does not have a permit cannot contractually agree to pay anything.
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