Ebay fraudster

CGG

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/local/conman-ordered-to-pay-back-money-after-ebay-fraud-1-6100112

soolin

CGG wrote: »

www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/local/conman-ordered-to-pay-back-money-after-ebay-fraud-1-6100112

Good, it's about time these people started to realise that they can't get away with this sort of scam

RFW

I'm impressed the police did something. Once they start realising that these are often easy arrests and prosecutions there may be more of them.
I was disappointed the conman hadn't actually sent a couple of real apples instead of the bananas.

GabbaGabbaHey

By my reading, all he has to do is to pay back the money and he will get off scot free - it's only if he doesn't pay the victim back that he'll get a custodial sentence.

I'm not sure what the deterrent is here. I can sell a phone on eBay, send off some tuna and bananas and wait. If I get caught, I just give the money back; if not, I pocket it.

Or am I missing something?

fozzeh

GabbaGabbaHey wrote: »

By my reading, all he has to do is to pay back the money and he will get off scot free - it's only if he doesn't pay the victim back that he'll get a custodial sentence.

I'm not sure what the deterrent is here. I can sell a phone on eBay, send off some tuna and bananas and wait. If I get caught, I just give the money back; if not, I pocket it.

Or am I missing something?

Declaring a criminal record for the rest of your days to anyone and everyone who asks?

RFW

fozzeh wrote: »

Declaring a criminal record for the rest of your days to anyone and everyone who asks?

Indeed and if he tries it again he will end up in chokey.
If we started locking everyone up who stole/defrauded under £500 our prisons would be more full, we need room for all the celebrities that keep getting arrested.

GabbaGabbaHey

Fair point, although under the (recently updated) Rehabilitation Of Offenders Act, 2014, a fine only has to be declared for 1 year from the date that the fine was imposed, so not exactly "the rest of your days"!

StumpyPumpy

GabbaGabbaHey wrote: »

Fair point, although under the (recently updated) Rehabilitation Of Offenders Act, 2014, a fine only has to be declared for 1 year from the date that the fine was imposed, so not exactly "the rest of your days"!

That depends.

The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act only applies in the UK. You would need to declare it for "the rest of your days" if you ever wanted to travel to America.

This instance probably wouldn't stop you getting a Visa but would stop you getting a Visa Waiver as fraud is one of the offences that falls under the umbrella of "moral turpitude". Two fraud convictions and they won't let you into the country at all. You have to declare any criminal conviction to US Immigration regardless of when it was.