Missing lockable wheel

4743hudsonj

Confusedandneedhelp wrote: »

Thank u all.

I honestly don't know if he said they were included, but at the same time I can definitely say he didn't say they weren't.

Ye, inconvenient is certainly the word. I'll speak to kwik fit.

Pardon my ignorance again, but where do I get replacements?

Any good local factors will stock common fitments and be able to buy in on a few days notice rare ones for £15 - £25 for a set. It's worth taking in another bolt (even a non locking one) from a wheel to get the right fitment.

jbainbridge

From what I remember our Scenic had a storage hole in the left of the boot ... that's where I kept the locking nut. Have you searched the whole car? ... also try the floor storage bins, drawers under the seats?

Nodding_Donkey

Some locking nut manufacturers, McGard for definite, can provide a new key from a photo of the wheelnut.

Norman_Castle

Spend 1/2 an hour searching the car. Read the manual to find all of the storage pockets and possibly instruction of where to find the key. Empty the car completely.

Very few tyres "burst". Its a puncture. Presumably slow as the car is at home. Have you tried borrowing or buying a pump to re-inflate the tyre?..

greatgimpo

Has the V5 got the name and address of the last owner/keeper? How viable would it be to contact them?

worried_jim

scotsbob wrote: »

Same thing happened to me a couple of years ago. Local tyre places tried but couldn't unlock it. Main dealer quoted £100 to unlock and replace locking nuts!!!
Eventually a member of our car club who is an RAC mechanic got it unlocked but as has been noted above you then need new wheel locks.

I had the same problem and a friend who is a RAC technician lent me a box with 100 wheel keys in it and after trying each one individually I eventually found the right one and then bought a new set of locking wheel nuts and I know where the key is.-

Austineer_2

Hello Confusedandneedhelp - in most Scenics the locking wheel nut key is in a box shaped like a small suitcase - normally a milky white in colour and often stored in the glove compartement.

However, in ten years of rooting through customers' cars I've found the blasted things under the seats, wedged down the back of the seat squabs, under floor mats, in the fuse-box flap, in ashtrays, tucked inside the manual folder etc etc. I have literally taken apart vehicle interiors to find them.

Some are relatively easy to remove by means of hammering a socket over the top or welding a socket on. This doesn't work in all cases (the type that have a spinning collar being a notable pain in the wotsits).

We have a set of extractors which wind into the locker to gain purchase, but obviously this ruins the nut/stud.

Obviously a tyre-weld type solution is an option to get you to the dealer if the tyre is only punctured. HOWEVER, I would use this cautiously as I have seen far too many people try to continue on a tyre that has suffered secondary damage (damage by being run in an underinflated state before the tyre went completely flat).

As others have suggested, locking wheel nuts are not the necessity they once were. Get rid of them all and replace them with standard wheel nuts at your earliest opportunity.

BeenThroughItAll

Your local non-KwikFit/major chain tyre fitting place will almost certainly have an array of tools intended for the removal of locking wheelnuts without the appropriate key. They may well be happy to come and take the wheel off at the roadside for you for a consideration, and the promise of purchasing a new tyre/puncture repair from them. Once you've got the car mobile, take it into them and have the other three LWNs removed, and replace with standard.

Ebe_Scrooge

I had exactly this situation a few months ago. My local indy charged me £25 to remove all four locking nuts ( one on each wheel ) and replace them with ordinary ones. They said they welded an ordinary nut on to the locking one, then just unscrewed it. As previous posters have said, these days locking nuts are more trouble than they're worth.

If you've got very expensive wheels and want locking nuts, then a main dealer can get the original "keys" for you if you have the serial number of the nuts, but for most ordinary cars just do away with locking nuts altogether.

Confusedandneedhelp

Thanks all for the replies. I'm sorry I didn't come back. I paid £40 to get all four removed in the end.

Anyone reading this: all the above advice is great. And the quickest way for me was to use a local garage.