data protection act

mrs_angry

thanks for your replies, i expected to be told some of the things mentioned and of course i DO NOT AND WOULD NEVER condone what she has done, should i be happy that she was questioned without someone whom she trusted present, i dont think so i was and still am upset that the school did not contact me to let me know this was happening, that i would have thought would have been a common courtesy.
as for the punishment her father and i give that is no ones business but ours, i dont need to be told i should be happy that a police community officer scared the poop out of her, she has not commited murder, she wrote on the floor with some chalk, which we made her scrub off, as soon as we found out of course and if making her cry and refuse to eat etc is the punishment she recieves well than who am i to argue with either the school or the community warden

i think someone in the family should have been informed of the events before they happened, and thats because i wish to know what my children are doing, my home phone number and address are common knowledge, yet no one called at the door, or rang my home or my mobile until they had questioned her, if my child has commited an offence i should be told. last week when my daughter had a suspected broken knee cap the in loco school rang me to inform me and tell me to come and take her to the hospital, they didnt just take her to the hospital because it was a serious thing, something her parents needed to know this event too was a serious thing and in so i should have been contacted straight away.

if the police had asked for my number i know it can be given, this was a community warden, who threatned her with the police, said they were waiting for her and the boy who also commited the offence, and whom i may add did not scrub off the offending wording.

i will still ring the school, as thats what concerned parents do, and for that i will make no apology as its not down to the school to stand alone in the discipline of my daughter, its a joint matter for which i keep my end of the bargain and expect the same in return...but thanks for the reples

stevemLS

OP, you sound to have calmed down a bit, you would just look at bit of a plonker if you go in all guns blazing.

It doesn't really matter if it was a PCSO as you stated in first post or a local authority civil enforcement officer as you now seem to say - only the arrest triggers the additional protections afforded by PACE and neither have the power of arrest. It seems to me that no-one has acted improperly in dealing with your daughter.

mrs_angry

i never intended to go in "guns blazing" that would be totally idiotic! im a parent not a thug. i just wanted some views as a concerned parent, as in my opinion if ALL parties concerned fail to communicate that does the child no good, working together does. what lesson did she learn from this only time will tell but im quite certain her chalking will not lead to any further things...well i hope so as she really is a sweet child who if she does wrong uses her own money to buy the person she wronged a card to say sorry.

arcon5

I suspect the 'questioning' was actually more of an 'informal telling off'. Otherwise i'd be inclined to agree with you op. In this instance though maybe focus on what matters? It seems they will not be using the full force of the law which could damage her future prospects - so maybe go along with it, a good telling off, clean it up and hope she learns from it. Because next time it may not be a PCSO 'questioning' her, it may be a police officer and may be in a more formal environment.

Even if they was wrong, a quick letter to the school is probably all that's needed

SuperHan

mrs_angry wrote: »

i think someone in the family should have been informed of the events before they happened, and thats because i wish to know what my children are doing

You did a great job of that while she was out breaking the law...

arcon5

SuperHan wrote: »

You did a great job of that while she was out breaking the law...

Oh get of your high horse for god sake. Your kids must be perfect I take it

laineybird2000

SuperHan wrote: »

You did a great job of that while she was out breaking the law...

Not at all helpful, why would you be so nasty?

Money_maker

Probably because every parent who posts on here when their child has been 'naughty' normally wants to try to turn it around so they can blame someone else. For instance if the child runs up a large phone bill, must be the phone company's fault for not stopping them, if they have a spending spree on ebay then once again its not the parents fault. Likewise if they buy apps, games and goodness knows what online.

Take responsibility for your child and stop trying to blame everyone else for their behaviour.

daytona0

mrs_angry wrote: »

last week when my daughter had a suspected broken knee cap the in loco school rang me to inform me and tell me to come and take her to the hospital, they didnt just take her to the hospital because it was a serious thing, something her parents needed to know this event too was a serious thing and in so i should have been contacted straight away.

By the sounds of it your daughter did something which I or you would receive 20 hours unpaid community service. That is breaking the law and whilst she is a minor you can't not consider the implications...

Whereas in the case of the knee cap, it wasn't a life threatening issue (kids often exaggerate anyway) and schools are too busy to pander to every child's whim (this happened to me when I was 16 and I cracked my head open on a basketball frame - nobody took me to hospital but they phoned home and I had 10 stitches).

Having been a teacher myself I would always back up the school/teachers in this spot because they are only trying to set a good example with the kids by obeying local laws

if the police had asked for my number i know it can be given, this was a community warden, who threatned her with the police, said they were waiting for her and the boy who also commited the offence, and whom i may add did not scrub off the offending wording.

As above, you'd likely be picking up dog poop for the next month were you in your daughter's shoes.... so the threat carries some weight

i will still ring the school, as thats what concerned parents do, and for that i will make no apology as its not down to the school to stand alone in the discipline of my daughter, its a joint matter for which i keep my end of the bargain and expect the same in return...but thanks for the reples

Saddens me this... The school and teachers work their !!! off to educate your child and be a good role model and yet they've got to deal with phone calls from a "concerned parent" who is unhappy that her daughter dodged community service with a stern telling off (parents can and should be concerned but as this could have turned ugly I don't see the issue). Why don't you go up to the police and ask for your daughter to be considered as an adult and make her do some community service? Or why don't you actually take her down to a local soup kitchen and say "you've done wrong so the next month you must volunteer in here once a week"?

I have a lot of respect or schools and the local police/rescue services but too often they get too much unnecessary hassle trying to help children..

arcon5

Money_maker wrote: »

Probably because every parent who posts on here when their child has been 'naughty' normally wants to try to turn it around so they can blame someone else. For instance if the child runs up a large phone bill, must be the phone company's fault for not stopping them, if they have a spending spree on ebay then once again its not the parents fault. Likewise if they buy apps, games and goodness knows what online.

Take responsibility for your child and stop trying to blame everyone else for their behaviour.

These examples aren't fair comparisons with ops situatuon. In fact it seems clear op is well aware of the wrongs on her daughters part and has accepted that.

But simply because the child has done wrong, doesn't give an automatic right for others to act in a way that could prejudice the daughter - by for example 'questioning' the daughter without the parent at least aware of the situation.

Although I do think op should let this lie - I don't think these are fair comments.