Police screw up. legal help please?

derrick

Casey1709 wrote: »

Am I the only one disapointed at the outcome to this thread?Whilst I'm sympathetic to OP for being a victum of some peasant scum's entertainment, and the Police should follow the law, I am aghast at the amount of time & resource he has used up of the police to save himself £105, which should be covered by his insurance (unless of course he only has third party cover and not fire, theft or comprehensive). I can't believe the damage to the vehicle would be less than his £100 claims excess (door lock forced, steering column damaged to hot wire, steering lock broken).

Rubbish, police screwed up, they have to act within the law, and it has now been proved they acted outside the law and have had to pay the Op his money.

It would have cost him money to claim from his ins, re loss of NCD and loading of future premiums.

Time and resources could have been saved if the police acted lawfully and not been so bl**dy arrogant.

Casey1709

Thanks Derrick, I think I said, "the Police should follow the law". Presumably the OP will still be claiming off his insurance to repair the damage to his car, so the additional time to add a bill for £105 would not be great. Ultimately, the police's & the OPs time could have been saved if the culprit had not offended in the first place. As I said, I'm disapointed at the way the thread turned out.

littlepockets

Casey - still not sure why your disappointed at the the outcome of the thread

The OP got his costs back and he didn't have to claim off the insurance so won't have to face increased premiums and he will have helped other people in a similar situation

It sounds your more disappointed that this thread had to be started - which i agree with but then we all have to devote time and resources recovering unfair costs

Well done to daveturney for getting his money back despite all the negative criticism

daveturney

Casey.
It is proven..the police screwed up, any money wasted is their fault, what is your problem.?

How about if these test cases on bank charges prove that the banks are within the law, I fear you will have a heart attack at the strain Martin Lewis has put on our economy.

Also i think that you under-estimate the money that is pumped into the police force, and the money washed away by the force through stupid meaningless things done everyday, hug a hoody, sending police on skateboards etc etc.

ME!, let me remind you,I am the victim, a tax payer for years, my money go's into the system and laws are passed to help us get along with our daily life, but Oh no, wait, the police screwd up ( they admit it ), I corrected them in their error ( ive proven it ), I win a refund of the money I am deprived off ( they apologised ). Yet here we are on this forum, where were encouraged to question the small print in legally binding contracts with some of the FTSE 100 ( the companys that keep this counrty going ), and gain refunds nationally of over £1 billion ( this is money dot com )...within legal precedent, here we are, and Casey, buddy, old chum, your unhappy with a legally refunded £105 for a screw up that should of never happened.

please, alter your perseption on this matter.

Casey1709

Hi Dave, thanks for taking the time to reply. Do you not think there's a difference between challenging prices/ charges by commercial organisations (such as banks) and Public Service organisations (such as Police), or say, not for profit organisations (such as a charity). I'm also still struggling with the sequences of events that made you want to challenge the Police over this fee. From your earlier posts, it appears that it was your insurance company that originally suggested you challenge it? If so, why was it not covered by your insurance? How much was the total bill for damage to your car?

NovaBlack_2

gotta say i dont get why people say you have to do something its the law... you cant claim your £105 back.. blah blah blah and get aggressive at the OP asking for advice.

after all the investigation, (hidden by lot of unneccessary flames and bickering) its discovered that policy clearly states (although hidden away) the police should pay if they recover it for evidential purposes, which was the case, people still go mad at the OP...


i really dont understand it. the OP was clearly in the right (as it eventually turned out , as he got a refund). This whole thread could have been half the size if we removed all the non-constructive posts. please try and be friendly people. people are coming on here to ask advice. you dont HAVE to post or reply.

as far as 'its a small fee' that kept getting said, sorry.. but £105 isnt a small fee to everyone. its very subjective. if your in debt and struggling to pay the rent, getting paid minimum wage £105 is DEFINETELY alot of money. its a bit rough to say to the OP " i know you already had to go through the trauma of getting your car stolen (not a nice experience by the way) but tough, you should pay the bill". some people went as far as to claim the OP was almost 'profiting' or seeking 'undue enrichment' . As far as im concerned giving the £105 to the OP only put him back into the financial position he had been in before he suffered a crime. technically he's still been put through the ordeal itself. isnt that enough of a price to pay? If courts arent being hard enough on criminals (community service seems to always be thrown about) then im sorry, but that is a failing of our society and needs to be addressed. its not fair to say sorry, the courts arent making them pay , so pay for it yourself.

after all that has happened the OP has still had to put time into researching, phoning, and writing just to get back the cash he shouldnt have lost in the first place. and people act like hes 'made money unfairly' . sorry i dont see how you can say this. this is putting aside the fact that even on police policy the OP was legally in the right as it turned out, in asking for the police to pay for it.

lets try to keep these forums welcoming and helpful for all. by all means have an opinion, but dont push it to the level it becomes rude, impolite or abusive.

anyway, to the OP. congrats.


oh ps.. if ppl are wondering where the money should come from ... a cruise missile costs £1,000,000 EACH. how bout we dont invade other countries n worry about our own. . . . .

daveturney

suddenely the finger pointers have nothing to say?

no criticism?

...enough said.

emmalt

Surely the increase revenue they are getting from speed cameras could pay for this:rotfl:

emmalt

NovaBlack wrote: »

gotta say i dont get why people say you have to do something its the law... you cant claim your £105 back.. blah blah blah and get aggressive at the OP asking for advice.

after all the investigation, (hidden by lot of unneccessary flames and bickering) its discovered that policy clearly states (although hidden away) the police should pay if they recover it for evidential purposes, which was the case, people still go mad at the OP...


i really dont understand it. the OP was clearly in the right (as it eventually turned out , as he got a refund). This whole thread could have been half the size if we removed all the non-constructive posts. please try and be friendly people. people are coming on here to ask advice. you dont HAVE to post or reply.

as far as 'its a small fee' that kept getting said, sorry.. but £105 isnt a small fee to everyone. its very subjective. if your in debt and struggling to pay the rent, getting paid minimum wage £105 is DEFINETELY alot of money. its a bit rough to say to the OP " i know you already had to go through the trauma of getting your car stolen (not a nice experience by the way) but tough, you should pay the bill". some people went as far as to claim the OP was almost 'profiting' or seeking 'undue enrichment' . As far as im concerned giving the £105 to the OP only put him back into the financial position he had been in before he suffered a crime. technically he's still been put through the ordeal itself. isnt that enough of a price to pay? If courts arent being hard enough on criminals (community service seems to always be thrown about) then im sorry, but that is a failing of our society and needs to be addressed. its not fair to say sorry, the courts arent making them pay , so pay for it yourself.

after all that has happened the OP has still had to put time into researching, phoning, and writing just to get back the cash he shouldnt have lost in the first place. and people act like hes 'made money unfairly' . sorry i dont see how you can say this. this is putting aside the fact that even on police policy the OP was legally in the right as it turned out, in asking for the police to pay for it.

lets try to keep these forums welcoming and helpful for all. by all means have an opinion, but dont push it to the level it becomes rude, impolite or abusive.

anyway, to the OP. congrats.


oh ps.. if ppl are wondering where the money should come from ... a cruise missile costs £1,000,000 EACH. how bout we dont invade other countries n worry about our own. . . . .

Wise words NovaBlack!:T

emmalt

craigo wrote: »

the 2 PCs followed me on foot, urging me to hurry up and push faster, but didnt think to help, while a trail of cars followed and seemed to enjoy watching me struggle with various speed bumps and corners!

Typical of society today. The 2 PCs probably hid behind 'ealth and safety as a reason not to help you (though a PC in Sheffield did push my car for me when it broke down at a junction and was bocking the road).

As for the trail of cars, not one thought poor bloke, I'll get out and give him a hand.