neighbour making false reports

Morglin

1111 wrote: »

Hi thank you for replying, when we first moved in one for the people who works for the council that own the property ask us if we had any problems with her yet.
So i dont think its just us shes had a problem with, it just feels like we should sit and not move incase it winds her up.
To be honest i'm sick of it already, the kids that play on the street are alot louder than us. i'm just frightned we are going to end up in trouble and losing our home over it all because we cant prove it.
I will speak to the other next door see if she would mind contacting them and giving her side as the children play mostly on her side of the house due to us having to stop them using the bedroom and her side.

Well, if the problem is her, then the council will become aware of it, fairly swiftly.

If your other neighbours appear onside, then, quite honestly, I would discuss this with the housing officer, and just ignore the neighbour.

Ask for a noise box, if you like, just to prove to the landlords what is going on.

Let your kids play normally, and let the neighbour whine away.

This is your home, which you are paying rent for, and you are entitled to "quiet enjoyment" of that property.

Kids make noise, that's what they do, and it is unfair of them to have to creep around.

In fact, I would turn it on her - and report her for anti social behaviour, if I was sure I was in the right.:eek:

There are always people like this, in any street, and the only way to stop them is to ignore them, and their whinging, completely.

But, malicious complaining, and harassment also breaks tenancy rules and she should be made aware of that.

Lin

Hermia

It might be worth keeping a sort of noise diary of your own. I had a neighbour who kept complaining about me making noise, but it was all complete tosh (she started the day I moved in). She said I woke her up by hoovering at 3am (I have never hoovered at 3am!) and by playing music all night (I don't have a music player and I am in bed before midnight). I ended up just keeping a basic diary and put things in it like "went to bed 11am as early meeting tomorrow" and "hoovered 2pm Sat". Completely ridiculous, but I think it helped me when complaints were made.

1111

Im sick of telling the kids not to talk loud or do anything, they can't even play properly at the moment, if they cry i'm scared she'll report us for it, it doesnt feel like our home anymore its like shes took over it completely and we do as she says, I wouldnt even say my kids are loud really they are just normal kids playing, they are at school most of the time and are in bed for 7pm the house it silent after that, we use the time out step and yes sometimes they cry about it but they are only kids what else would they do. I cant stop them playing, laughing, crying to suit her. she lives alone in a 3 bed house, I think her older son could live there but have only seen him once or twice in the garden.
I have tried to contact my housing officer today but shes not in yet but have emailed and explained all this and asked about the noise monitors as I know we definitely dont make that much noise to the extent for her to complain about, so would be willing to have one installed just to prove it.
I have never had a complaint in my life, I understand some tenants are noisy, play loud music, scream and shout. but we arnt like that

1111

also we told our housing officer last time we went in that shes not so quiet, she makes weird noises, laughs and makes screaming noises early hours of the morning and wakes my son up yet they didnt get back to us about that, i think shes awake most of the night and sleeps during the day and thats what her problem is, she doesnt work or anything

adouglasmhor

Your mistake was signing or making the agreement in the first place with the housing, that means you have basicaly admitted it.

We went into the office and agreed we would stop shouting and we started using a chart instead now 2 week later another complaint.

ReadingTim

It seems to me like your neighbour is somewhat older than you who has either never had children / thinks children should be seen and not heard or has forgotten the reality of family life with kids of a certain age - say the 5-15 age range. Perhaps also her previous neighbours were doormice, so she's been used to complete silence, which is something of an unrealistic expectation when living in close proximity to other people.

On the other side of the arguement, your children are clearly fairly active kids in terms of the playing, laughing, crying etc. You yourself mention "shouting" on a couple of occasion, so there's obviously enough noise being made to require you to shout to make yourself heard. Can you see why this might be a problem? You may not consider yourselves to be the loudest people around, but your neighbour's not living next to those people (who ever 'they' might be) - she's living next to you.

There will obviously have to be some compromise - the neighbour needs to accept that normal family life will involve some noise, but you should also consider the extent to which your family noise is normal, rather than is simply quieter than the worst offenders.

PasturesNew

Noisy people thinking they're not noisy are like fat people who don't think they're fat and alcoholics who don't think they drink more than "other people".

We've no idea if you're a loud/gobby/annoying/shouty family ..... or if she's a weirdo.....

But comparing yourself to the noise that others make isn't valid. The question is whether a reasonable person walking past would think "Christ they're a noisy rabble"....

1111

the shouting was a simple case of shouting them from there bedrooms for tea, telling them to get back in bed, shouting up for simple things (like stop arguing and behave) stop messing on the stairs ect it wasn't like we was going completely mad or anything like that, its my youngest 2 which are 3 and 4, they do argue over little things (like snatching toys for each other) but the housing officer said next door didnt like us shouting up stairs to them and would rather us go up and tell them, which was the only thing we agreed with and thats when we decided it was time to use the time out step/charts and reward them for not doing them things and have stuck to that.
I dont agree with anything she said regarding the children, they are just children, we can't really stop them for doing normal things.
I dont have a clue who lived here before but think they was old due to the state of the house when we moved in, the bedrooms was really old fashioned and there was childrens wallpaper in one that was a really old style sort if you know what i mean.

thesaint

There was a programme on BBC2? this morning, called "Call the council" in which a family had been complaing about their neighbours for 12 years.

The council installed the equipment for a week, and they couldn't hear a thing.
It was so sensitive, it picked up the tick-tocks of their clock.

They invited the family to their offices to listen, and they were hearing things that were simply not there.

The council officer even went to the property late at night to listen, and the sound(extractor fan) could not be heard, but you could tell that the residents were deeply distressed by the perceived noise they were hearing.

I would hate to live next door to someone like them, and feel sorry for the neighbours whom had endured years of unfounded complaints.

1111

the noisiest noise that comes from our house is the hoover and thats just in a morning