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Should I get a 5 or 10 year fixed mortgage?

playaz
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edited 25 May 2014 at 9:00AM in House buying, renting & selling
I have been doing some sums recently - and looking at a 3 bed house I have worked out it will cost around £385 a month on a 5 year fix with Santander (with no product fee).

Alternatively I could pay £413 a month with Yorkshire and get a 10 year fixed mortgage albeit with a £130 product fee.

I know nobody has a crystal ball and can gaze into the future but what does everyone think about really long deals such as 10 year fixed deals? Is it worth it or would I be best sticking with the 5 year deal which seems to be the 'norm' for most people.

Any advice would be truly welcomed! I am just about to accept a counteroffer and looking to put in my bid which will be accepted very shortly.
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  • Southend1
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    Personally, if I was confident I would be living there for at least 10 years I would take the 10 year fix. Interest rates are only going to go one way from here.
  • playaz
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    Southend1 wrote: »
    Personally, if I was confident I would be living there for at least 10 years I would take the 10 year fix. Interest rates are only going to go one way from here.

    I believe so, but you never know what can happen I guess.

    Sorry for the silly question but if I go with the 10 year fix would this give me any issues in the future should I decide to move after let's say 5 or 6 years? I have determined that no matter where I live I want to be there for at least 5 years (unless I get a neighbour from hell!) :)
  • Lily-Rose_3
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    I agree with Southend. If you can fix a mortgage as low as £413 a month for 10 years, that sounds good, as yes, the interest rates will more than likely go up quite soon. Also, it's much better value than £385 a month for 5 years.

    That said, 10 years is a long time contract to get involved in for anything. You may want to sell in 4/5 years or less, so make sure that there is a get-out clause that says it isn't going to costs multiple 1000s (like £4 to £5K plus,) to get out of the deal.

    On the one hand 10 years fixed mortgage sounds good, but on the other hand, it does tie you to that house a bit, and as I said, it could cause financial implications if you want to move in 4/5 years. Even if you stay with the same mortgage lender, a new home will mean a new mortgage, and that will effectively end the deal, and incur any charges due for severing that 10 year deal.
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  • worried_jim
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    I too would take the ten year fix. To know what I will always pay is good peace of mind to me.
  • kinger101
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    playaz wrote: »
    I believe so, but you never know what can happen I guess.

    Sorry for the silly question but if I go with the 10 year fix would this give me any issues in the future should I decide to move after let's say 5 or 6 years? I have determined that no matter where I live I want to be there for at least 5 years (unless I get a neighbour from hell!) :)

    The issue will be the early repayment charge. You may be able to avoid this if the mortgage is ported to another property. Best read the terms and conditions closely. The longer the fix, the higher the ERC. It could be something like 7% of outstanding balance on a 10 year fix.
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  • Lily-Rose_3
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    kinger101 wrote: »
    The issue will be the early repayment charge. You may be able to avoid this if the mortgage is ported to another property. Best read the terms and conditions closely. The longer the fix, the higher the ERC. It could be something like 7% of outstanding balance on a 10 year fix.

    That would be great if they would do that, but in the days I was buying (last time I bought was about 9-10 years back I think,) that wasn't possible. New house new deal. Maybe they can carry the deal over? Not sure if anyone does this though.

    As you said, it may be a good idea to find out now, and read the terms and conditions carefully. But I know when we had a 5 year deal back in the very early 2000s, and moved house, we were only 2.5 years into the 5 years, and had to pay about two and a half grand back then to get out of the deal.
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  • Lily-Rose_3
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    playaz wrote: »
    I believe so, but you never know what can happen I guess.

    Sorry for the silly question but if I go with the 10 year fix would this give me any issues in the future should I decide to move after let's say 5 or 6 years? I have determined that no matter where I live I want to be there for at least 5 years (unless I get a neighbour from hell!) :)

    Yes, there could be financial implications to get out of the deal. Best to find out first. Think of the worst case scenario.
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  • kinger101
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    Lily-Rose wrote: »
    That would be great if they would do that, but in the days I was buying (last time I bought was about 9-10 years back I think,) that wasn't possible. New house new deal. Maybe they can carry the deal over? Not sure if anyone does this though.

    As you said, it may be a good idea to find out now, and read the terms and conditions carefully. But I know when we had a 5 year deal back in the very early 2000s, and moved house, we were only 2.5 years into the 5 years, and had to pay about two and a half grand back then to get out of the deal.

    Most lenders will let you port. The caveat is that even with moving the mortgage to another property, the lender will still do all the checks of a new mortgage, and could refuse to port if their criteria are not met. I think some people could fall into a trap here with the new affordability checks.
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  • kingstreet
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    Another lender recently launched a ten year fix with only a five year ERP.

    As has been mentioned, to port the YBS rate on moving house, you have to be able to satisfy the lender's criteria and affordability checks at the time to port the rate to a new mortgage to keep it and avoid ERPs.

    What if your circumstances have changed? YBS is a picky lender at the best of times and I suspect if you would have a problem, it would be with this lender.

    In my experience, five years is enough and you could quite well find you drop out of the fix at the wrong point in the rate cycle just as easily on a ten year than you do with a five and have considerably less flexibility.

    Still, it's all speculation, so who knows?
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  • gazter
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    playaz wrote: »
    I have been doing some sums recently - and looking at a 3 bed house I have worked out it will cost around £385 a month on a 5 year fix with Santander (with no product fee).

    Alternatively I could pay £413 a month with Yorkshire and get a 10 year fixed mortgage albeit with a £130 product fee.

    I know nobody has a crystal ball and can gaze into the future but what does everyone think about really long deals such as 10 year fixed deals? Is it worth it or would I be best sticking with the 5 year deal which seems to be the 'norm' for most people.

    Any advice would be truly welcomed! I am just about to accept a counteroffer and looking to put in my bid which will be accepted very shortly.

    What are the actual rates that they are getting fixed at?
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