A chicken is for life not just Christmas Dinner (An 11+ ELITE Thread)

purpledonkey

Morning Savvy :rotfl:

nerfdad

Morning all:)
Off to see Xmen in 3d with ds1 &ds2 while mrsnerf takes ds3 to see postman pat:cool:

abailey54

Morning :wave: it's Friday :D


I'll be glad when today is over, I practically shouted at someone on the phone at work yesterday which is very out of character for me :( hopefully not going to make a habit of that :eek:

I think maybe cake is the way forward

midwinter

Good morning all

Hope everyone has a very good day today.

Dizzy_Ditzy

Morning all

Friday :j :j :j

streetlights

Good morning, everybody, I hope you are well, hooray to Friday. I hope you all have fabulous day.

I had a fantastic whoopsie shop last night.

Happy shopping elite.

Evangeline1971

Good morning everyone

Savvybuyer wrote: »

Thank you very much for that!:)

I knew you meant that - but I was referring to this (very very old and out-of-date article now):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16002303
' "It's almost an industry itself, actually," says James Foord from MySupermarket, which provides the data for Asda's Price Guarantee. '

I thought I saw "cottage industry" there - although I do remember Mr T calling it a "cottage industry" of a very small group of customers using the 'DTD price check vs Asda' when they pulled it in April 2011. A "cottage industry of savvy and determined customers" if I remember it rightly:D. At that point, I was proud to be part of such a "cottage industry".

The way they collect Morries prices for the APG, if it's still up online, is here:

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2011/2/ASDA-Stores-Ltd/TF_ADJ_49664.aspx
In particular, Response part 1, but also into part 2.


Response part 1 says:

"1. Asda said a third-party agency scanned shelf-edge prices and promotions in Morrisons stores in various locations across the UK every Monday and Wednesday, recording three prices for each product to minimise the risk of recording inaccurate price information. If a recorded price for a product was 20 per cent different from the price recorded in the previous week, the agency made an additional confirmation of the price. Asda said checks were carried out to ensure the data was robust and as accurate as possible and that more significant pricing and product identification discrepancies were investigated manually. Asda accepted that the price comparison exercise in Morrisons relied on the accuracy of shelf-edge labels but they believed the process was robust and involved processes designed to remove inaccuracies.
Clearcast [the television advertising clearance body set up by the industry] said that, because Morrisons did not have an online presence, unlike Tesco and Sainsbury's, the Morrisons data needed to be collected manually. Clearcast said they had examined the online and manual processes at an initial stage and were satisfied that it was a good and fair way of collecting competitor data."


Assuming that this is still the way they do it.

They scan every item three times apparently, to reduce mistakes. They do this in every one of the six stores they collect in (twice a week), at least one of which is in Scotland as that has a different data set.

Thanks for this Savvy I've been wondering why Morries still price collect rather than pulling the data from the Morries website. The first part of that article says this

WM Morrison Supermarkets (Morrisons) challenged whether the claim "Asda Price Guarantee" in all the ads was misleading and could be substantiated because:

1. they believed the information captured by mysupermarket.co.uk (mysupermarket) and used as the basis of the price comparison could not guarantee an accurate reflection of the price of goods sold in Morrisons. Morrisons said mysupermarket scanned shelf price labels in Morrisons and that, if the labels were incorrect or out of date, the information would be unreliable;

2. they believed that, while Asda collected price information from Tesco and Sainsbury's daily, they collected it from Morrisons twice a week only, on days when Morrisons said their promotions were less likely to be active;

3. they believed Asda excluded some own brand and branded products from the price comparison data;

4. they believed non-food products, which they believed accounted for approximately 18 per cent of Asda's total weekly sales, were excluded from the price comparison, which they believed made the comparison unrepresentative of a typical customer's weekly shop.

Morrisons also challenged whether the ads listed at (b) and (c) were misleading because they understood:

5. own label fresh meat was excluded from Asda's price guarantee;

6. non-grocery products (such as home electrical and entertainment products) were excluded from Asda's price guarantee;

7. the World Cup related products featured were exclusive to Asda and not, therefore, available at Morrisons, Tesco or Sainsbury's.

8. Morrisons and Tesco challenged whether ads (a) and (d) were misleading because they suggested Asda was generally cheaper than Morrisons, Tesco and Sainsbury's when they believed there were significant exclusions from the price comparison.

9. Morrisons challenged whether ad (e) was misleading because it failed to provide clarification of the products featured and because some of the items, such as fresh meat and salad, were excluded from Asda's price guarantee.

I'm still confused really because surely they must know that the current method of collecting the data is less accurate than if they pulled it from the website :huh: or are they too stupid to realise that there are many many inaccuracies with the Morries APG comparison. Why do Morries care so much anyway about the APG being accurate :think:

Either way they ought to sack the price collectors for not doing their jobs properly. If they find repetitive work boring they shouldn't have applied for the job in the first place. I would love to have their job and wouldn't find it boring at all, in fact it would be very interesting and give me the opportunity to learn even more about grocery products and pricing

Westvleteren

Morning

FloFlo

Morning all x

David.

TrulyMadly wrote: »

When I lived in South View:)

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