A chicken is for life not just Christmas Dinner (An 11+ ELITE Thread)

Bikertov

scamps1966 wrote: »

I'm having this trouble. If you have no credit, how do you connect to the internet? I s wi-fi the answer?

Yes you can just use wifi. In fact, you can run the app on an itouch, not even a phone I believe.

The only downside of wifi only is getting the app work when you are out - you need to get into a wfi zone

fairclaire

Good evening

karlie88

fairclaire wrote: »

Good evening

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lookinforabargain

Evening all

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tweets

Bedtime cya all tomorrow :wave:

Savvybuyer

Hi there - we had some of the bacon tonight, whether it was with or without the presence of faecal material.

Evangeline1971 wrote: »

[...]Filtered milk such as Cravendale is better than ordinary cows milk, which is allowed to contain a small percentage of blood and pus. Filtering will eliminate most of this.

I prefer to drink soya milk and only drink cows milk when soya milk isn't available because I'm not comfortable with abusing cows in this way just so I can drink milk

But soya is from plants and probably contains traces of soil and even worse nasties in that.

I think I've concluded I'm going to have to stay with cow's milk. No food or drink is pure or totally free of any bacterial material or dust or dirt. I have enough with not wanting to have any natural yogurt at all or any 'bio'pots, sounds horrible with living things squiggling around in it somewhere.

I tried to find out the composition of milk in this country but to no avail. The limits on blood/pus etc. appear to refer to American sources, so are not relevant to what is or isn't permitted under 'our' legislation.

The trouble is not knowing what, if anything, to believe on sources on the internet. The official sources, I always suspect they are hijacked by the industry, and 'money talks', on food. We have pharmaceutals too that are reviewed by experts who receive at least something, or anything at all, from industry companies and who knows what to believe? How do we know a medical journal is reliable or otherwise?

Meanwhile, the non-official sources you don't know whether to believe them either, as you feel they might be more conspiracy theory than any true fact.

I have no idea where to look in the first place, or where to start. I found (and my 'finding' may be totally inaccurate and misguided) that to be 'milk', milk is the secretions from the mammary glands and you're not allowed to add anything to or remove anything from them, otherwise it would not be 'milk'. So, yes, it is going to contain whatever those secretions contain, blood, pus, gore and all.

Apparently semi-skimmed milk, for example, is more likely to have later contamination as the fat is removed and then part of it put back, a process that gives further opportunity for microbial contamination: http://resources.schoolscience.co.uk/SGM/sgmfoods12.html

I did discover that raw milk was banned from sale in Scotland. It has particular risks to health. It can be sold in England and Wales, but at the farm gate, in farmhouse catering operations or by farmers at farmer's markets and specific milkmen (or women): http://www.milk.co.uk/page.aspx?intPageID=43 The number of outlets was extremely low. Raw milk can be sold in Northern Ireland but there were no sales of it made, although this last info. is from the Food Standards Agency.

I always feel that even if there are regulations no-one knows if they are enforced or not. It is one thing what the law says but it doesn't stop things that break the law from going on. How can it be said that no-one has bought raw milk in Northern Ireland as this doesn't exclude the possibility that one person, somewhere, somehow, could have done but that the information about that might have remained unknown to the authorities?

In short, I've no idea what to believe. All food somewhere must have something or other in it and otherwise what am I to put on my Crunchy Nut cornflakes? I could use water instead of milk, but then water has all sorts of other things in it and all of it must have started off as urine somewhere else. I'm a hungry though, as my meal with the bacon hasn't filled me (no fault of the bacon, just the meal we did) - and normally reach either for cereal with milk or for a tin of rice pudding. And who knows what the milk in that might or might not contain. Apparently the milk that is discoloured or not suitable as straight milk gets used and put in milk chocolate instead:rotfl:.

I could have one of the Jazz apples - they are rather nice and I actually feel they are better quality than the other ones ('value'-ranges) that I've being having. But, as something that has been out in the air, I'm sure apples contain all sorts of things too, beetles will have walked over them, flies will have landed on them and deposited any stuff, not all or much of which will get washed off, even if it is put under a tap of water (which itself contains further 'contaminants' of any sort).

Mrs_stinkface

Evening all.

Scamps- loving the piccy's of cassie, she's gorgeous. X

Savvybuyer

Well the wombles tonight are a bit, shall we say, !!!!!!. Not in number necessarily but quality - people keep getting mbuys when others are cheaper elsewhere, just reducing any amount of APG. And grapes again!:mad:.

They keep getting too many r'back £1 items... grrr!!... and getting mbuys on the crisps rather than just leaving them at more expensive:(. So I don't think much from the wombles, except possibly the ones I have quarantined:D, one of which will be good, and the others may be if I have any success in rescuing them by hoping they compare to lower prices if I wait for M updating on them.

Btw, has anyone got the Pepsi 2L comparing to M at 99p yet?

zippydooda

Bikertov wrote: »

You don't even need to put the O2 sim card in the smartphone. It can be put in a normal basic phone.

Then, in your non-O2 smartphone, download the app and start it. Enter the number of the O2 sim that is in the basic phone. When it receives the text enter that in the app.

scamps1966 wrote: »

I'm having this trouble. If you have no credit, how do you connect to the internet? I s wi-fi the answer?

scamps1966 wrote: »

Coffee in T's tomorrow it is then.

Cheers Zippy. :beer:

I done it exactly the way described in 1st quote on wifi with no credit used.

David.

Savvybuyer wrote: »

Well the wombles tonight are a bit, shall we say, !!!!!!. Not in number necessarily but quality - people keep getting mbuys when others are cheaper elsewhere, just reducing any amount of APG. And grapes again!:mad:.

They keep getting too many r'back £1 items... grrr!!... and getting mbuys on the crisps rather than just leaving them at more expensive:(. So I don't think much from the wombles, except possibly the ones I have quarantined:D, one of which will be good, and the others may be if I have any success in rescuing them by hoping they compare to lower prices if I wait for M updating on them.

Btw, has anyone got the Pepsi 2L comparing to M at 99p yet?

We shall not :eek:
Savvy
Bacon worked from 7 o'clock shop