Clever kitchen people! Any thoughts on this Howdens quote?

zcrat41

Hello there, I've been reading this board and there's a few really useful threads.


We're about to move to a house where we're knocking a kitchen/breakfast room together. The layout of the kitchen is pretty square (most people I think would have a breakfast bar but we don't like them - we just want a stick out worktop - I don't know the technical term!) Kitchen is 3.4 x 3.2.


It's for Greenwich shaker cream. I know its the cheapie cheap one but the higher cost to us of the nicer ranges just wasn't justified. We're hoping a good fitter will do the job of making it look smart.


We're also looking at WK Kitchens - any comments on them would be great. They are more expensive than Howdens (not by much) but in my novice opinion seem to have better quality.


Here's the Howdens:


2 WKP6460 Granite 3m 616 38 W/top 50.00 162.00 F
3 WKP6495 Granite 1.4m Edging Strip 59.95 10.32
6 GIR0020 Worktop Connecting Bolt 59.80 4.56
2 WOR9064 Tan jointing compound 59.98 14.24
1 WKP6485 Granite Style 2.4m 950 38 B/nose B/bar 50.00 119.00 F
7 HKB1169 Pewter Twist Handle 89.98 3.85
18 HKB1170 Pewter Twist D Handle 89.99 13.32
1 SNK5160 Lamona Ashworth 1.5 bowl 60.00 97.20
1 TAP3407 Chrome Hi-Tech Monobloc Tap 60.00 64.80
2 HKC0055 Soft Close Kitchen Hinge Pack. 0.00 0.00
1 ZZD39 Delivery 0.00 60.00
2 GKC5146 Gkc Wh Nh 600 Cc 3 Dwr Base 70.00 482.40 F
1 GKC5201 Gkc Wh Nh 300 CC HL Base 70.00 59.40 F
1 GKC5211 Gkc Wh Nh 400 CC HL Base 70.00 64.20 F
3 GKC5231 Gkc Wh Nh 600 CC HL Base 70.00 227.70 F
1 GKC5904 Gkc Nh 600 HL App Door 80.00 33.80 F
1 GKC5401 Gkc Wh Nh 300 CC Full Ht Wall 70.00 41.70 F
1 GKC5411 Gkc Wh Nh 400 CC Full Ht Wall 70.00 48.00 F
2 GKC5421 Gkc Wh Nh 500 CC Full Ht Wall 70.00 106.20 F
1 GKC5472 Gkc Wh Nh 631 CC L Shaped Cnr Wall 70.00 145.50 F
1 GKC5335 Gkc Wh Nh 800 CC HL Cnr Base 70.00 93.60 F
1 GKC5341 Gkc Wh Nh 1000 CC HL Cnr Base 70.00 93.60 F
1 GKC560B Gkc Wh Nh 600 Cc 2 Sgl Ovn/Dwr Twr 70.00 192.00 F
2 GKC5690 Gkc Wh Nh 600 70/30 Fr Fz Twr 70.00 240.60 F

4 GKC5919 Gkc 30mm Sqr Profile Cornice/Pelmet 2.4m 80.00 68.80 F
3 GKC5920 Gkc Continuous Plinth 80.00 57.60 F
2 GKC5930 Gkc 910 Base Decor End 80.00 52.40 F
4 GKC5940 Gkc 752 Full Ht Wall Decor End 80.00 92.00 F
4 GKC5950 Gkc 2130 Tower Decor End 80.00 240.80 F
1 GKC5989 Gkc B/Bar Backing Panel 80.00 66.40 F
Only products marked F (FSC) or P (PEFC) above
are certified as follows: : :
FSC Mix 70%, SA COC 001813
70% PEFC Certified, SA-PEFC/COC-001813

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Total Goods 2955.99
VAT 591.20
Estimate Total 3547.19

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We're going for a double full size oven - I think the only one I've found is CDA. We'll get our appliances elsewhere. We'll probably jazz up worktops and add some extras like pull out trays in the larder but we wanted a good starting point.


Would be really grateful for any expert eyes!

Lad

Sorry, can't really help on the Howden's question but noticed you've mentioned that you're getting a CDA oven. When I was looking at appliances, CDA seemed to get some bad write ups. Thought I point it out to you just in case you weren't aware.

adamg

you dont have a larder unit on the order. £64 for the tap, Howdens are probably making £60 profit on that including the 17 times they will replace it for you as its worst tap ever. Your worktops should all be 60% off, id want 72.5 off the units and 85 off the panels, plinths.

adamg

The oven tower is not for a double oven, you dont need the clad on panels, if your going for the cream door use the oak carcass looks better imao

premkit

Like above stay away from CDA very poor quality, good sink and taps are essential. Check how many exposed worktop ends that need edging, you have enough for 6 there. Ask your fitter if he uses worktop colour fill, most don't use it.

redmalc

I confirm stay away from CDA appliances

jenfa

Ok I'll hold my hands up and I might make myself look stupid, but I have seen a few quotes from Howdens on here that look like the above. Can anyone quickly explain the codes after the description pretty please.

I have Howdens coming out tomorrow to give me a quote, I already have one from Homebase for Shreiber Belgrade sage.

Are you aware that a double oven is one large oven and one very tiny one? only really a grilling space? I think John Lewis do some but a lot of companies have stopped making them. I think Neff and Bosch may too and don't necessarily think they are going to be expensive because if you go to a Neff/Bosch dealer their prices are more competitive than the internet and JL.

adamg

jenfa wrote: »

Are you aware that a double oven is one large oven and one very tiny one? only really a grilling space? I think John Lewis do some but a lot of companies have stopped making them. I think Neff and Bosch may too and don't necessarily think they are going to be expensive because if you go to a Neff/Bosch dealer their prices are more competitive than the internet and JL.

the top oven is ideal for smaller items such as pizzas, tray of roast potatoes, its more efficent to run as its a small cavity. I cant think of any companies that have stopped making double ovens.
What codes are you confused with?
CC means cushion close ie soft close hinges/ drawers
GKC Is the code for the door Greenwich Cream
ZZD39 Is a delivery code that is 100% pure profit on the figures for the salesmen this is what they get paid on. It affects the managers bonus as its claimed back through their profit and loss bonus

jenfa

Thanks Adam maybe it is the type of oven we are looking at.

I was thinking more the codes on the right is one individual price and the other including vat? and the F?
How easy is it to find out how much discount you are getting? On another Howden thread someone said the OP should get x% of doors x% of other bits etc.

We are looking at the Tewkesbury Skye.

suisidevw

Jenfa - Tewkesbury Skye will be SUPER expensive - probably the most expensive. We wanted thsi, then saw a sample and you see the wood grain in it! We are now probably going for the Burford Gray with white granite worktops and Neff appliances. Also goign for a double oven, and as Adam says above, the top oven is fine for size!

adamg

I think the F probably means its from a certified forest for the wood they use. Its all chipboard anyway which is a waste product so not to worry about it. The first number is the discount you have got and the right hand number the total price of that item line