driving slow : your views ?

topdaddy_2

DirectDebacle wrote: »

Because I made no assumptions. You think I did because you didn't understand the previous posts, ie the post I replied to and my reply, which wasn't based on any assumptions. The only assumptions are the ones you invented.

Please try to understand posts before you comment on them.

You made a mistake. Its human dont fret it.

Nodding_Donkey

Strider590 wrote: »

That's usually because someone killed themselves trying to overtake some idiot doing 40mph.
That's exactly what's happened on a number if roads near here, instead of punishing the idiots that can't drive to the conditions, they reduce the speed limits to suit them...... Completely bonkers.

How can you punish someone that's already dead?

Norman_Castle

Originally Posted by Strider590
That's usually because someone killed themselves trying to overtake some idiot doing 40mph.
That's exactly what's happened on a number if roads near here, instead of punishing the idiots that can't drive to the conditions, they reduce the speed limits to suit them...... Completely bonkers.

Or possibly, the speed limits are reduced because some idiots lack patience and can't overtake without crashing.

sma11person

I don't lack patience. I just want to get from A to B in reasonable time. If A to B is going to take 2 hours, but someone in front drives 15mph under the posted limit, that's going to add considerable time to my already long journey. I was taught to drive as close to the speed limit as possible, because driving slower is considered to be driving without due consideration for other road users, and would be a failure on test. It's also an offence o drive slower, and drivers can be pulled over for it. The people driving too slowly should be either made to take extra lessons until they can drive properly and appropriately to conditions, or forced to give up driving.

I can overtake without crashing when it's safe to do so. If other road users are driving to road conditions, no one else should need to overtake.

dktreesea

molerat wrote: »

Like the bell end I was following yesterday, 40mph on an open NSL road busily chatting away to his passenger and waving his arms around, braking at every slight curve in the road, could not overtake him due to oncoming traffic. He may have been calm but the half dozen drivers behind him were not.

Does NSL stand for No Speed Limit? If yes, then there's no such thing. That open road sign means the speed limit is 60mph, except if it turns into a dual carriageway, then it's 70mph for cars and 60mph for trucks.

martin2345uk

dktreesea wrote: »

Does NSL stand for No Speed Limit? If yes, then there's no such thing. That open road sign means the speed limit is 60mph, except if it turns into a dual carriageway, then it's 70mph for cars and 60mph for trucks.

NSL = National Speed Limit.

dktreesea

motorguy wrote: »

What part of the world do you live in that you only have a "few" HGVs on your motorways?

In mine theres a continuous flow of lorries buses and vans, all speed limited to 56MPH, so whats the issue if a car driver does the same speed as those?

And the issue with motorways is that people view the outside lane as "the fast" lane and that gives them carte blanche to drive along at 70mph in it, often with no traffic in the middle / inside lane, rather than pulling back over a lane.

I thought the speed limit for lorries, buses and the like on motorways was 60mph, not 56mph?

They can't all have speed limiters/governors fixed because the other day in Cumbria I was between two trucks in the inside lane, going at 73mph just to keep up with them, and the number of cars who overtook the three of us was mind boggling.

topdaddy_2

dktreesea wrote: »

Does NSL stand for No Speed Limit? If yes, then there's no such thing. That open road sign means the speed limit is 60mph, except if it turns into a dual carriageway, then it's 70mph for cars and 60mph for trucks.

N is for national.

lister

dktreesea wrote: »

Does NSL stand for No Speed Limit? If yes, then there's no such thing. That open road sign means the speed limit is 60mph, except if it turns into a dual carriageway, then it's 70mph for cars and 60mph for trucks.

Single carriageway is 60 for cars, 50 for non car-derived vans, 40 for HGVs

Dual carriageway is 70 for cars, 60 for vans, 50 for HGVs

N.B. carriageway refers to a contiguous piece of tarmac, so a dual carriageway has to have a central reservation of some kind. This means it is perfectly possible (and they do exist) to have single lane dual carriageway (NSL for cars 70mph), and multilane single carriageways (NSL for cars 60mph).

Iceweasel

dktreesea wrote: »

I thought the speed limit for lorries, buses and the like on motorways was 60mph, not 56mph?

They can't all have speed limiters/governors fixed because the other day in Cumbria I was between two trucks in the inside lane, going at 73mph just to keep up with them, and the number of cars who overtook the three of us was mind boggling.

The term 'truck' is a bit vague.

The speed limit for LGVs on motorways is 60mph, but see here for the speed limiter rules:

http://www.dvlni.gov.uk/Freedom%20of%20Information/Heavy%20Vehicle%20Inspection%20Manual/Speed%20limiter.pdf

For those who still work in shillings and pence -

LGV = Large Goods Vehicle (HGVs no longer exist)

Speed limiters on the trucks and buses that require them are set at 90kph = 56mph.