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UKPC Parking Ticket - Advice Needed!

mcooke999
mcooke999 Posts: 196 Forumite
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On 16th May 2014 I received a 'Parking Charge' notice issued by UKPC.

Here are the facts:
  • I was parked on Middlebrook Retail Park carpark (Bolton) which is owned and run by a company called 'Emmerson'.
  • The car park serves a computer shop called 'Scan' and a few industrial type units. At the time of parking up, all the spaces outside Scan were full up so I had no choice but to park in a bay outside one of the other units.
  • The car park did have some signs dotted around to say 'must be parked within designated bay with valid permit displayed' and 'no roadway parking'.
  • The ticket is for allegedly parking in a bay marked for permit holders only, although the only evidence that would suggest this is a 5x3cm green plaque on the kerbline with the words 'Top Cash Back'. Other than this small plaque, there was no other line markings or signage to suggest that this particular bay is not for the general public.


When I went out to my car to find the ticket slapped on my windscreen, I obviously went into Scan to ask if they could contact Emmerson or UKPC to waive the ticket, they said they would help as much as they could and even would give CCTV evidence to Emmerson to prove that the attendant was 'lurking' around the corner waiting for me to park up. I am awaiting a phone call from Scan to see how this avenue is progressing...


So basically, I need good advice on how to proceed...

1) Do I immediately go through UKPC's official appeals process or wait for the Notice to Keeper to arrive first? UKPC states that I have 14 days to respond or the fine goes up from £40 to £70.

2) If I go down the appeals process, is there advice on how what to say and what not to say?

Any advice would be greatly received...

Thank you in advance

Comments

  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Start by reading this thread (a couple of times) It will take you through the process.
    The post back if you need further help
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • mcooke999
    mcooke999 Posts: 196 Forumite
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    I have read through the Newbie thread at the top but still have a few questions:

    1) Do I wait for the NTK before appealing?

    2) As UKPC is a member of BPA, do i, and can i just jump straight to POPLA?
  • nobbysn*ts
    nobbysn*ts Posts: 1,176 Forumite
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    Should win easily. I've been there, Scan is usually full, but if you mean the main carpark instead, it's massive, serving a load of other stores. They won't have a chance.
  • mcooke999
    mcooke999 Posts: 196 Forumite
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    No not the main car park, on the same car park as Scan but in a row of spaces on the right as ypu drive in the car park.

    So do I appeal through UKPC now or wait til the NtK arrives? But at that point the invoice would go up to 70 quid apparently. ..
  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Wait to the NTK
    Appeal to PPC
    Get rejection
    Then appeal to POPLA
    At this point you will win.
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • mcooke999
    mcooke999 Posts: 196 Forumite
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    Dee140157 wrote: »
    Wait to the NTK
    Appeal to PPC
    Get rejection
    Then appeal to POPLA
    At this point you will win.

    Thanks Dee! :-)

    Please could you explain how you know I will win though?

    Also, is there a standard proforma for the PPC Appeal?

    I have seen the one on the Newbie thread here for POPLA.
  • mcooke999
    mcooke999 Posts: 196 Forumite
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    Also, please could you explain why I need to wait for the NtK before I appeal to the PPC?
  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    There is a template for the appeal to the PPC followed by a second template later for the appeal to POPLA when the appeal to the PPC gets rejected.
    It is advised to wait for the NTK as not all PPCs follow up windscreen tickets and there are certain rules they are supposed to follow if they do. If they don't it gives more ammunition in the appeal.
    UKPC will follow it up.
    On this forum there is 100% success rate with forum assisted appeals. That is what I base my statement on.
    When I had a parking ticket, I was incensed and despite. O knowledge whatsoever I followed all the advice to a T and sure enough it worked.
    If you are really unsure, there is a parking ticket appeal group you could pay to sort this for you. Should they lose they pay the ticket for you. Will find the link on another post for you of you want.
    Newbie thread: go to the top of this page and find these words: Main site > MoneySavingExpert.com Forums > Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Click on words Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking. Newbie thread is the first post. Blue New Thread button is just above it to left.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,793 Forumite
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    mcooke999 wrote: »
    Also, please could you explain why I need to wait for the NtK before I appeal to the PPC?
    The rationale is already explained in the NEWBIES thread, so do have a read. And we know you will win at POPLA because we haven't lost any for over a year except one which was misread by the assessor who was new, and it's subject to a complaint and in the Lead Adjudicator's in-tray at POPLA as we speak.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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