Term time holiday court fine help please?

BillJones

PenguinJim wrote: »

Yikes! I'd always thought this attitude towards hard-working school students was limited to the lazy students and bullies in the class. It's genuinely saddening to see someone who (I'm presuming) is an adult to have a go at dedicated students.

It really is. I expect he's also furiuous that it now allows me to do what I do.

"I don't need no education. Hey, why does he get a better job?!"

BillJones

blisteringblue wrote: »

If a parent wants to take their child on holiday that is their business, especially if they are at primary school.

Well, theirs, the school, and the courts.

So please, less whining when people are fined.

OnlyMe123_2

I have two children but I never even considered taking them on holiday during term time so I'm not sure how it used to work before the current regulations came into force.

Was there a limit to how many days/absences were allowed?
As long as you asked for permission was it automatically granted?
How long in advance did you have to asked for permission?
Was it "first come, first served"?
Were there restrictions on how many pupils in the same class could be off at any one time?
The arguments so far only seem to address the problem of one pupil in a class catching up on work - what if it was say five different pupils in a class of thirty every week over a seven week term?

If this was a major logistical problem for schools I can understand why they would move to a zero tolerance stance.

Mojisola

OnlyMe123 wrote: »

If this was a major logistical problem for schools I can understand why they would move to a zero tolerance stance.

The schools didn't move to a zero tolerance stance - the Head Teachers' right to give permission for holidays in term time (apart from a few very exceptional circumstances) was taken away from them by the government.

OnlyMe123_2

Sorry I'll rephrase the last sentence, replace "they" with "the government"

I would still be interested to know the answers to my questions from parents who had taken their children out of school before the current regulations or from teachers who have had to deal with it from their end.

Mojisola

OnlyMe123 wrote: »

Was there a limit to how many days/absences were allowed?

Heads would usually give permission for ten school days if there was a good reason why holidays couldn't be taken during the school holidays.

As long as you asked for permission was it automatically granted?

No.

How long in advance did you have to asked for permission?

Long enough to get an answer back from the Head and then book the holiday.

Was it "first come, first served"?

No.

Were there restrictions on how many pupils in the same class could be off at any one time?

Not officially but I doubt there were many cases where more than one or two children would be off at the same time. Most parents accept that it's better for children to in school during the terms.

The arguments so far only seem to address the problem of one pupil in a class catching up on work - what if it was say five different pupils in a class of thirty every week over a seven week term?

This is the problem teachers face.

Let's say over two weeks of school, one child is off sick for three days, another two have two days off, one child is on holiday during week one, two are off for the full two weeks, another two are off during the second week - the teacher has to make sure that all those children catch up with work that has been missed otherwise the school's SAT results will be affected.

The children who came to school every day have their education affected because of the time spent on the children who went on holiday.