Horse going on Loan

pandas66

Very good point!

also his feed, has he been turned out into new grass, fizzes up in the tum! My 2nd (after the loan) pony was a 'handful' and I lost a lot of confidence that my plodder had given me. I did need instruction in handling her as he was a total different ride too. I had to watch her diet too, she was easily fizzed up.

A small word of warning, I hope you already get on with the 'loaner' and I hope she/he's an experienced rider.

orlao

No it's a private yard, all the horses live out 24/7 unless they're ill or have to come in for some other reason! Nobody in their right mind would try and take him in a school, he always jumps out at the first opportunity with or without his passenger:eek: Same with stables, he hasn't found one he can't either jump or smash his way out of yet. Despite that he hacks out (fairly) safely, is 100% in traffic, farrier etc.

I've already gone over all the costs with the loaner but it's a good idea to ask for a look at the insurance just to be sure it is in place......after all, if there is an accident, she can walk away...I can't!
I have put into the contract that if anyone else is going to ride him regularly that it must be with my prior approval and that he can't be used for 'hire or reward'

I must put no part loans etc unless I agree in writing in advance

Thanks

O x

pandas66

How old is he?

He sounds like he needs extra schooling. My silly girl was sold to me as an 8 year old, she wasn't and she was a little loopy!

But as well as me needing instruction with her, she had a lot of lunge lessons to wear her out and then she started listening to me instead of fighting.

TiggsY2k

I have my horse out on loan at present!! Has been a good 4 years and works really well. The loan before though wasn't so good and like Kickstart said contracts dont always work. When your horses welfare is first and foremost notices don't always become mandatory. But it is good that you are thinking about all the details, especially insurance. If their is one thing you should put in the loan it is insurance. I pay mine so i can keep track on any claims against her as the borrower has to come by me first to sign and verify the claim. But as your horse is staying locally somewhere you can visit regularly it might not be such an issue. And yes don't change the details on passport under any circumstances unless you are selling.

TiggsY2k

Loaning goes on luck in finding the right person to match your horse. If you feel it isn't working for either you or the horse dont hesitate to change or terminate the agreement.

orlao

Hi Kickstart and Pandas66



He's just a very reactive nervy horse......I've spent 6:eek: years, since he was 4, trying to 'get on' with him but my confidence has been knocked so badly that I can't give him the confidence he needs....he has none so his rider has to give it all to him. Many lessons, some fantastic instructors ( see previous post about the school!) haven't helped, it's a bit of a 'catch 22' situation meaning that every time he does something I tense...he reacts....and it's all gone wrong again. However, with someone on him who can sit there saying "I can't see a problem" he just relaxes and is almost a plod!I have finally come to the decision, not easily, that I can't ever see myself enjoying him or vice versa but I'm sure there is someone out there who could.



As far as food/grass is concerned, it doesn't seem to make any difference....he's worse when he's in on hay only and he's nervy at all times of the year, I really do think it's a mismatch between us. I am an experienced rider (that's not to say good tho:rotfl: ) who competed a lot many years ago
but I did have a break from riding for a few years when my old boy retired earlier than planned and the youngster was only 2. That affected me more than I expected and the whole losing my nerve thing has just got worse! the only horse I now enjoy riding is an ex RDA pony who is so steady that he's barely moving which is a shame cos I used to get so much from the horses that I really hate the way I feel now and would love to get some of that pleasure back.

His loaner is a very quiet confident lady who I like a lot, she used to have a horse on part loan here and has seen mine at his worst on more than one occasion.......whenever anyone has shown any interest in him I've really tried to be more than honest about him....out of 20 plus calls only 2 people were let actually ride him ( he dumped one of them:o ) and all I want now, for both of us, is to try and do things 'right', make sure all of us are fully aware of all circumstances and forseeable possibilities cos the last thing I need is a damaged horse, loaner, big bills and this is really the last chance for him as I won't ride him again and he need more than to be a field ornament for the next 15-20 years! I think you can see why selling on is not an option as far as I am concerned.

Petal_3

Hi there

I just wanted to pop in and say how I envy you gals with horses! I had a horse when I was 15 (the love of my life!!) but sadly he went lame due to osteodystrophia and was put to sleep. I never really got over it and miss him like you wouldn't believe - I think/dream of him often - I'm now 45! :eek: I would LOVE to have another one day but I know that my relationship would suffer cos OH would never see me! I've even got my 4 yro DS booked up for riding lessons just after he turns 5 (he wants to by the way) :j One day we might hack out together.....

Anyhooo....I ramble on. I might look in once in a while and live vicariously through you....;)

(I sometimes go into tack shops cos I love the smell and wander round planning what I would buy....headcollars, grooming kits.....hmmmm)

Good Luck with the loan!

~x~

catshark88

When I put a horse on loan, I notified his insurer (Petplan). The loaner paid the premiums. I got post dated monthly cheques from her made out to Petplan but she could have paid them direct. I just wanted to be certain that they had been paid.

Useful article in Horse & Hound this week about loans and keeping your horse secure.

tiamai_d

So is he loaned out yet?

Get everything sorted?

Update! lol

Ours is moving to a new place tomorrow. Will be better for her (and her stablemate too) they were on a derelict farm.

orlao

Hi Guys

He's due to go on loan from 1st August, I let her have a months trial first and it seems to be going well, fingers crossed!

Just doing the finishing touches as far as the contract is concerned, no confusion I hope......

I saw this weeks horse and hound......scary what can happen isn't it?

BTW, how did your horses end up on a derelict farm?!