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'Formal Demand' of parking ticket received 112 days after 'offence'

Hi there,

I have unfortunately received a 'formal demand' from Ethical Parking Management issued a day in January in a car park in England when a relative borrowed my car. Apparently there was nothing left on the windscreen despite the 'demand' claiming a 'contractual breach charge was issued to the driver' AND the correct ticket was purchased and displayed according to my relative. I've had a read through the forum and understand that this notice should reach me no later than day 56 after the incident, however the date of the letter is 112 days after the incident!?!?
They quote that the keeper will become liable for the balance under the POFA 2012 but as they have failed to follow the basic rules themselves do they have the right to harass me for this balance?

I plan to write to them using the template on the newbies thread, adding the lateness of their first notice as point no. 4 but wanted to check that this was the right thing to do first.

Kind regards

Comments

  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    yes , do that

    the RK cannot be liable for this after day 56 has passed so pofa doesnt apply, leaving them with the old option of pursuing the driver for up to 6 years (and you wont tell them who was driving either , lol)
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    Appeal using the template letter, send it via the post office with proof of postage, and if they have it electronically as well. They are in breach of pofa 2012, so complain to the bpa and dvla as well, they are quoting the legislation so are out of time.

    Ensure you enclose the letter you've received that clearly shows the date of ticket and date of Notice to Keeper, that alone shows an instant fail in pofa 2012 and doesn't allow them to hold the keeper liable.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,177 Forumite
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    edited 11 May 2014 at 10:18PM
    Ethical Group have their useless HQ in Worthing - I drove past it only the other day on my way to take my DD to a meeting at her college somewhere in West Sussex. I must admit I laugh every time I see it because they used to be clampers until the Govt took their toys away. And of course you have to laugh at the oxymoron of their choice of company name! Easy to beat at POPLA but expect some kicking and screaming first, that you are 'too late to appeal' (you are not, the keeper can only appeal when they get the first letter, if they didn't get any windscreen PCN which of course...the driver in your case didn't).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Ticketvic
    Ticketvic Posts: 5 Forumite
    To make their time keeping skills appear even more shabby they have also applied to the DVLA outside of the 28day limit. I know this because I have recently changed my address and the date I sent off my logbook falls out side the 28 day window in which they have to ask the DVLA for my details. Shall I add this also or leave this for when they, no doubt, reject my first letter?

    Kind regards
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,177 Forumite
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    You could add it to rub their noses in it!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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