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An Enjoyable Look Into tweets and Poppy's Expeditions Thread (An 11+ ELITE Thread)

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  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    One word.

    Cynic.:rotfl::rotfl::T:T
  • Savvybuyer
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    Go on, I'll leave you for the night !! As you know I planned to catch up with what's been happening earlier throughout today but neither have I done so much and nor does it seem much chance of that happening now:rotfl:.

    See you later folks!:D:wave::wave::wave::beer:
  • wendyak
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    fairclaire wrote: »

    thanks so much ...wish me luck :)
  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    Just answering one of the 'Adpoint' questions earlier.

    "Were you aware of movie XY before you watched this ad?"

    Of course I've no idea what movies are or aren't going on at the moment, as I don't pay any attention to the matter:D.
    Er... Perhaps they should have asked whether I was aware of the movie after I'd seen the ad! Shows how much attention I was paying - I've no idea what the movie was even afterwards! Only watch them to collect the points:D:rotfl::rotfl::j:j.

    I'm so pleased there's no chance of me being influenced by a movie whose name I cannot recall!:D I will of course go to the cinema to watch something, as part of the tickets given out as 'freebies' with one of my bank accounts (which I didn't get for the cinema tickets:D). I do like a visit at the cinema. I'm just aiming this at my inattentiveness to the actual content of the ad than any dislike of movies, which I'll watch on TV for the normal cost of the electricity etc. in the event anyway.

    Have you tried the autistic friendly screenings available at some cinemas? I know you might think that it doesn't make much difference, as I did.
    If you get the opportunity, try it. a it's amazing how much difference 'cutting the crap out' makes :)
    .......for DS2 it really was an opportunity to enjoy what he was there for. If the opportunity arises again, I will definitely be taking him.
    And as ever I like to support ventures making the effort to adjust things to an autistic level ;)
  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    wendyak wrote: »
    thanks so much ...wish me luck :)

    Lots coming your way :)
  • Savvybuyer
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    edited 18 May 2014 at 11:45PM
    My point - which I was thinking but didn't actually say (and I assumed that you possessed knowledge of my thoughts, which is itself a symptom of Asperger syndrome) - was advertising is very scientific and researched and advertisers do know what will chime in with the public and help increase sales. They know what assumptions - incorrect ones as usual - the public generally make and therefore can use those assumptions to help sell products. We saw it earlier on another episode of that programme - a mock ad that included an image of a belt, to imply that the product helped you lose weight. This is perfectly legal and nowhere did they claim that it did that, but the average reader just made the assumption (incorrect as ever). I think they also had, earlier in that edition, a WeightWatcher version of a product or one that said it was "low fat" that turned out to have a higher fat content than an equivalent product that wasn't promoted as "low fat" at all! People assume that Weightwatchers or "Healthy Choices" automatically means it has less fat. Sometimes it does not. Advice was check the fat content on the labelling!

    Now my actual point:D - advertising is researched, it's done to what will appeal to most people, in other words assumes that it will be read by the non-autistic mind, as the vast majority of people are not autistic. (It doesn't actively have that in mind - I'm not saying that - but instead it's the techniques that will appeal to the vast majority.) I'm pleased that, therefore, its techniques and assumptions are totally ineffective on myself!:D*

    (Addendum/explanation: Advertisers don't expect their advertising to be critically evaluated and don't therefore make it in that way. Again - I think (nah, I know!:D) I said this a long while ago - do the exact opposite of what they expect. They know what consumer behaviour is generally expected to be, and use it, along with everything else, to their advantage to make money i.e. profit, so - do the complete opposite and you'll be quids in! Behave the way the 1% of consumers behave, the way the companies don't expect, not the way the 99% of people behave and pay over the odds for everything.)

    Bye-bye folks!:A:wave:

    *An additional (but oversimplified) example: If someone in an ad gives a smile, it's assumed that viewers will see and empathise with that and maybe in a manner that will make them tend to favourable towards the advertised product. The advertiser (I'm just speaking generally, not in any specific circumstance;):D) does not get the point that the viewer might have autistic spectrum disorder and thus be unable to see the 'smile' or its communication in the first place! (It's oversimplified because I do recognise - when I'm looking at them:D - obvious smiles, i.e. those that have an obvious meaning, the person is happy. But, beyond that and into the more subtle...) Maybe similar with deaf people? Or people with blindness to the extent that they can't see at all what's on the television - there are different levels of blindness (and deafness) of course? (Who knows how anyone might perceive anything, with their remaining senses?)
  • SpiralingDown
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    fairclaire wrote: »
    What a lovely story SD. It will be good for him to read his Dads books ;)
    DS2s favourite book was Big Cook Little Cooks recipe book :o his speech was very delayed but he could grunt every ingredient in that book :D

    Have you been to CAHMS yet?

    I think reading them came into his head because we found one of his old drawings he'd done in school of his favourite part in his favourite book. At the time I think his dad had been reading Mort to him and his favourite part was the description of Death's world, that and 'the Death of rats' character, so everything was black and shades of grey. He'd included Death and the Death of rats in the picture, now just imagine the psychological problems his teacher now thought he had :rotfl: he was 6/7 yrs old so we got called in for a meeting about it and brought the book to show exactly what he'd been telling them, they hadn't believed it was in a book.
    Yes I know it might not have been the most suitable book to read him but he'd asked his dad to read it out loud, his dad was dyslexic but done his best when reading to DS so we saw no harm in it.

    We've not been to CAMHS yet, appointment was to be this Tuesday but DS has assessments this week and can't miss them because he missed the last ones so had to cancel. Have to ring tomorrow to see when new date is, they are supposed to phone but the girl they have answering the phone is hopeless, I tried to give her my number but she didn't seem interested and seemed like she didn't want to be there. Hopefully I'll get someone else tomorrow.
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  • karlie88
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    All I can say, is sometimes you all shock me!

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    I know!

    :eek:

    Still awake.

    :eek:

    Ooh we're a cheeky bunch.
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  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    I think reading them came into his head because we found one of his old drawings he'd done in school of his favourite part in his favourite book. At the time I think his dad had been reading Mort to him and his favourite part was the description of Death's world, that and 'the Death of rats' character, so everything was black and shades of grey. He'd included Death and the Death of rats in the picture, now just imagine the psychological problems his teacher now thought he had :rotfl: he was 6/7 yrs old so we got called in for a meeting about it and brought the book to show exactly what he'd been telling them, they hadn't believed it was in a book.
    Yes I know it might not have been the most suitable book to read him but he'd asked his dad to read it out loud, his dad was dyslexic but done his best when reading to DS so we saw no harm in it.

    We've not been to CAMHS yet, appointment was to be this Tuesday but DS has assessments this week and can't miss them because he missed the last ones so had to cancel. Have to ring tomorrow to see when new date is, they are supposed to phone but the girl they have answering the phone is hopeless, I tried to give her my number but she didn't seem interested and seemed like she didn't want to be there. Hopefully I'll get someone else tomorrow.

    I totally get it SD, don't worry! I have appointments with DS2 and I walk in totally clued up and sounding sensible. Then we get on to family history and when people hear we are living with suicide Johnny the mood changes dramatically!! :(

    You're a great mum, and so am I :D all you can do is the best in a crap situation. In hope DS does well in his assessments.

    My DS1 won't leave me :o he has an exam on Tuesday and I want him to go and concentrate on it. He says he'll go back tomorrow night. I do feel guilty, I hate him having all this on him. He's been so supportive it's unbelievable! He's a good kid, so is yours ;)
  • aau1
    aau1 Posts: 19,401 Forumite
    Savy, post 6276 has a referral link in it :naughty:

    If you don 't amend then the whole thing will be deleted. :eek:
    Apparently, everybody knows that the bird is [strike]the word[/strike] a moorhen
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