We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

employer has put in

2»

Comments

  • iammumtoone
    iammumtoone Posts: 6,377 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper I've been Money Tipped!

    I have (in your position) sent my ex-employer a request under the DPA98 to furnish me with a copy of all footage of my person on company property.
    This did not go down very well at all, and led to a few "changes" in company cctv policy.

    Why? did you do something that you would not like to be held or seen on camera :eek:

    I really can't see a problem with it. I have been unemployed and am just glad I have found a job, a few cameras around the place doesn't worry me.
  • Bill_Shidding
    Bill_Shidding Posts: 41 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 5 May 2014 at 10:18PM
    [QUOTE=Takeaway_Addict
    If the ex employer was inclined they would just refuse.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, and this is the issue that prompted my ex-employer to overwrite footage after 48 hours. However, the policy stated 30 days, and this is what I received. (Even an employer can discover a burglary within 48 hours).

    If employers want to film employees instead of;
    1) Managing them.
    2) Trusting them.
    3) Have enough confidence in them to do their job properly.

    Then that's the employers shortcomings, not the employees. My advice would be to get a better employer, as this one is clearly incompetent.

    Bill.
  • Bill_Shidding
    Bill_Shidding Posts: 41 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 5 May 2014 at 10:48PM
    Why? did you do something that you would not like to be held or seen on camera :eek:

    I really can't see a problem with it. I have been unemployed and am just glad I have found a job, a few cameras around the place doesn't worry me.

    Hey, I wouldn't draw attention to anything I had done!

    I didn't really have a problem with it either (for security purposes), the trouble was the "real" intention of the system was not security, it rarely is.

    Bill.
  • Takeaway_Addict
    Takeaway_Addict Posts: 6,538 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    Yes, and this is the issue that prompted my ex-employer to overwrite footage after 48 hours. However, the policy stated 30 days, and this is what I received. (Even an employer can discover a burglary within 48 hours).

    If employers want to film employees instead of;
    1) Managing them.
    2) Trusting them.
    3) Have enough confidence in them to do their job properly.

    Then that's the employers shortcomings, not the employees. My advice would be to get a better employer, as this one is clearly incompetent.

    Bill.
    It depends on the situation, cameras are a necessity in retail but maybe not so in say a call centre.

    Our camera system records for 3 weeks which is a fair amount of time and IMO 48 hours for your ex employer is quite short. I only found out someone stealing from where I work 5 days since the incident a few years ago and under your ex employers policy( which I doubt they would actually adhere to) I would not be able to prove it and dismiss them.
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • Bill_Shidding
    Bill_Shidding Posts: 41 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 5 May 2014 at 10:43PM
    It depends on the situation, cameras are a necessity in retail but maybe not so in say a call centre.

    Our camera system records for 3 weeks which is a fair amount of time and IMO 48 hours for your ex employer is quite short. I only found out someone stealing from where I work 5 days since the incident a few years ago and under your ex employers policy( which I doubt they would actually adhere to) I would not be able to prove it and dismiss them.

    My situation was factory / office / grounds. I can see that workplaces differ and pilfering in a shop may not be apparent until the stock take. In my ex-environment it would be obvious at the end of the shift that possessions or tools etc have gone walkabout. But my ex-employer was a psychopathic control freak and cctv was another tool in his armory. Hence my aversion to them being used as staff / performance monitors.

    Bill.
  • silentkiller
    silentkiller Posts: 240 Forumite

    I seem to recall that if the cctv has been installed on the premise of "security" the footage cannot (should not) be used for disciplinary action, unless the employee is accused of gross misconduct, ie causing injury, threatening behaviour or damaging property etc.

    Of course, cctv systems work for and against employers. Use them to your advantage.

    Bill.

    This is what I thought too - that they cannot use it to 'spy' on employees.
    The truth is out there... and I want to believe
  • Undervalued
    Undervalued Posts: 9,737 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    My situation was factory / office / grounds. I can see that workplaces differ and pilfering in a shop may not be apparent until the stock take. In my ex-environment it would be obvious at the end of the shift that possessions or tools etc have gone walkabout. But my ex-employer was a psychopathic control freak and cctv was another tool in his armory. Hence my aversion to them being used as staff / performance monitors.

    Bill.

    Providing the cameras are not hidden (and obviously not installed in a toilet or changing room) then I can't really see why people get so worked up about them.

    After all, anybody standing where the camera is would see what the camera sees so why is it different?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.9K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.9K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.