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Bill_Shidding wrote: »
I have (in your position) sent my ex-employer a request under the DPA98 to furnish me with a copy of all footage of my person on company property.
This did not go down very well at all, and led to a few "changes" in company cctv policy.
Why? did you do something that you would not like to be held or seen on camera :eek:
I really can't see a problem with it. I have been unemployed and am just glad I have found a job, a few cameras around the place doesn't worry me.0 -
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If the ex employer was inclined they would just refuse.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and this is the issue that prompted my ex-employer to overwrite footage after 48 hours. However, the policy stated 30 days, and this is what I received. (Even an employer can discover a burglary within 48 hours).
If employers want to film employees instead of;
1) Managing them.
2) Trusting them.
3) Have enough confidence in them to do their job properly.
Then that's the employers shortcomings, not the employees. My advice would be to get a better employer, as this one is clearly incompetent.
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iammumtoone wrote: »Why? did you do something that you would not like to be held or seen on camera :eek:
I really can't see a problem with it. I have been unemployed and am just glad I have found a job, a few cameras around the place doesn't worry me.
Hey, I wouldn't draw attention to anything I had done!
I didn't really have a problem with it either (for security purposes), the trouble was the "real" intention of the system was not security, it rarely is.
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Bill_Shidding wrote: »Yes, and this is the issue that prompted my ex-employer to overwrite footage after 48 hours. However, the policy stated 30 days, and this is what I received. (Even an employer can discover a burglary within 48 hours).
If employers want to film employees instead of;
1) Managing them.
2) Trusting them.
3) Have enough confidence in them to do their job properly.
Then that's the employers shortcomings, not the employees. My advice would be to get a better employer, as this one is clearly incompetent.
Bill.
Our camera system records for 3 weeks which is a fair amount of time and IMO 48 hours for your ex employer is quite short. I only found out someone stealing from where I work 5 days since the incident a few years ago and under your ex employers policy( which I doubt they would actually adhere to) I would not be able to prove it and dismiss them.Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked0 -
Takeaway_Addict wrote: »It depends on the situation, cameras are a necessity in retail but maybe not so in say a call centre.
Our camera system records for 3 weeks which is a fair amount of time and IMO 48 hours for your ex employer is quite short. I only found out someone stealing from where I work 5 days since the incident a few years ago and under your ex employers policy( which I doubt they would actually adhere to) I would not be able to prove it and dismiss them.
My situation was factory / office / grounds. I can see that workplaces differ and pilfering in a shop may not be apparent until the stock take. In my ex-environment it would be obvious at the end of the shift that possessions or tools etc have gone walkabout. But my ex-employer was a psychopathic control freak and cctv was another tool in his armory. Hence my aversion to them being used as staff / performance monitors.
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Bill_Shidding wrote: »
I seem to recall that if the cctv has been installed on the premise of "security" the footage cannot (should not) be used for disciplinary action, unless the employee is accused of gross misconduct, ie causing injury, threatening behaviour or damaging property etc.
Of course, cctv systems work for and against employers. Use them to your advantage.
Bill.
This is what I thought too - that they cannot use it to 'spy' on employees.The truth is out there... and I want to believe0 -
Bill_Shidding wrote: »My situation was factory / office / grounds. I can see that workplaces differ and pilfering in a shop may not be apparent until the stock take. In my ex-environment it would be obvious at the end of the shift that possessions or tools etc have gone walkabout. But my ex-employer was a psychopathic control freak and cctv was another tool in his armory. Hence my aversion to them being used as staff / performance monitors.
Bill.
Providing the cameras are not hidden (and obviously not installed in a toilet or changing room) then I can't really see why people get so worked up about them.
After all, anybody standing where the camera is would see what the camera sees so why is it different?0
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