employer has put in

shafs1976

60 cameras in building saying his put up for security reasons, they have one guy who checks cameras on his laptop and mobile phones. one camera on top of the toilet door an sees how many min each employee takes in the toilets , is that legal, please help us

~Beanie~

Yes it is legal, see here: https://www.gov.uk/monitoring-work-workers-rights/email-cctv-and-other-monitoring

specialboy

Is the camera on the outside of the toilets above the door? if so then theres nothing you can do.

makeyourdaddyproud

~Beanie~ wrote: »

Yes it is legal, see here: https://www.gov.uk/monitoring-work-workers-rights/email-cctv-and-other-monitoring

No it isn't.


Please read your links before posting.

specialboy

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

No it isn't.


Please read your links before posting.

Looks legal to me as long as the camera isn't in the toilets

~Beanie~

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

No it isn't.


Please read your links before posting.

I have read the link, and others, it is perfectly legal.

From the Information Commissioners Office http://ico.org.uk/for_the_public/topic_specific_guides/cctv

Q: Can my employer monitor my work using CCTV or tracking devices?

Yes, providing they make you aware of it, although in certain circumstances they may not have to tell you. Read about your employer's obligations regarding monitoring.

makeyourdaddyproud

~Beanie~ wrote: »

I have read the link, and others, it is perfectly legal.

From the Information Commissioners Office http://ico.org.uk/for_the_public/topic_specific_guides/cctv

Q: Can my employer monitor my work using CCTV or tracking devices?

Yes, providing they make you aware of it, although in certain circumstances they may not have to tell you. Read about your employer's obligations regarding monitoring.

Really?


From his original link...


"Employers are not allowed to monitor workers everywhere (not in the toilet, for example). If they don’t respect this they could be in breach of the Data Protection Act."



Looks pretty clear to me.

fruitedeli

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

Really?


From his original link...


"Employers are not allowed to monitor workers everywhere (not in the toilet, for example). If they don’t respect this they could be in breach of the Data Protection Act."



Looks pretty clear to me.

Learn to read. OP's employer hasn't put CCTV in the toilet. It's outside the toilet, on top of the door.

iammumtoone

Cameras everywhere at my place.

They do not have them in the toilets instead they have automated lights so if you are in there for more than a certain amount of time, the lights go out! some will say this is energy saving, it may well be, but is also a way of making sure no one is skiving in there! There are however cameras in all the corridors so like the OP it can be measured how long you are in there for :eek:

Just read that link, it does not mention them in my contract but I was informed about them. I don't see what the problem is I don't get up to anything at work that I need to hide.

Bill_Shidding

Hi op, your employer seems to be doing really well in the current economic climate, I'm sure your salary/wage will be raised significantly at your next appraisal! (60 cam cctv system = £10k+?)

I have (in your position) sent my ex-employer a request under the DPA98 to furnish me with a copy of all footage of my person on company property.
This did not go down very well at all, and led to a few "changes" in company cctv policy.

I seem to recall that if the cctv has been installed on the premise of "security" the footage cannot (should not) be used for disciplinary action, unless the employee is accused of gross misconduct, ie causing injury, threatening behaviour or damaging property etc.

Of course, cctv systems work for and against employers. Use them to your advantage.

Bill.

Takeaway_Addict

Bill_Shidding wrote: »

Hi op, your employer seems to be doing really well in the current economic climate, I'm sure your salary/wage will be raised significantly at your next appraisal! (60 cam cctv system = £10k+?)

I have (in your position) sent my ex-employer a request under the DPA98 to furnish me with a copy of all footage of my person on company property.
This did not go down very well at all, and led to a few "changes" in company cctv policy.

I seem to recall that if the cctv has been installed on the premise of "security" the footage cannot (should not) be used for disciplinary action, unless the employee is accused of gross misconduct, ie causing injury, threatening behaviour or damaging property etc.

Of course, cctv systems work for and against employers. Use them to your advantage.

Bill.

Subject access

Personal data which is normally held for under 40 days may be legitimately denied in subject access requests under the Act. This is a consequence of the time limit data controllers must meet in making their response. If the data has been deleted by the normal procedures of the business by the time the data controller responds to a request, that data cannot be supplied. For data such as closed-circuit television images which are routinely overwritten, it may be impossible for a subject to exercise their data access rights.


If the ex employer was inclined they would just refuse.