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  • slowlyfading
    slowlyfading Posts: 13,429 Forumite
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    Sounds perfect :D
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  • To revisit (boring day at work), the figure was multiplied by 300 because I think a safe withdrawal rate of 4% is reasonable (i.e. how much I can spend from my portfolio each year without exhausting it).


    Hi, thanks for the formula. I'm still not sure where you got 300 from? What have you taken 4% of?
    MFW - Original balance 28/08/2014 £52850
    Original MF date: 2049:eek: Aiming for: 2025 Current MFD: 2030
    Balance 27/07/2016 £49990
    Balance 08/07/2017 £47999
    Balance 30/07/2018 £44500
    Balance 01/08/2019 £40700
    Balance 03/09/2020 £37619
    Balance 30/09/2021 £33983
    Balance 18/01/2023 £28940
    Balance 06/10/2024 £22168
  • Karmacat
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    Those look so beautiful, Ed! And good heavens, to have one built for £150k complete ... bliss, compared to the prices in southern Englandshire...

    I hope MrsEd is home really soon after the procedure, and as for your "awww" moment ... lovely! Sends shivers up the spine, in a good way :)
    2023: the year I get to buy a car
  • edinburgher
    edinburgher Posts: 13,943 Forumite
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    edited 30 April 2015 at 10:02AM
    To cut a long story short, research involving Monte Carlo simulations for various types of portfolio have shown that 4% (or slightly lower) was the safe withdrawal rate for a portfolio of 50% equities/50% bonds (i.e. the rate at which it would never run out of money).

    Monte Carlo situations look at what would have happened to a given portfolio over every year for which data has been recorded.

    100% / 4% = 25 - in theory a balanced portfolio that will never run out requires 25x the annual expenses needed.

    300 is simply 25 x 12 (because we are talking about monthly expenses).
    Those look so beautiful, Ed! And good heavens, to have one built for £150k complete ... bliss, compared to the prices in southern Englandshire...

    I know - doubt that would buy me 50% of a nice 2 bed terrace where we used to stay in Bromley :eek:
  • AlexLK
    AlexLK Posts: 6,125 Forumite
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    I didn't realise that office offered online tutorials for Excel, whilst I'm nowhere close to understanding the FV function, thank you for the link. I'm hoping they offer some basic tutorials.

    The houses look interesting. My wife thinks properties like the one you linked to should be able to provide an answer to any "property shortages". Whilst I couldn't imagine living in one full time (I have far too many "things" to be living in an open plan space and like the "formality" of an entrance hall, dining room and study) I think one would be really nice as a holiday home. :)

    I hope your wife is OK and baby too. :)
    2018 totals:
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  • edinburgher
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    Yes, SIP houses are becoming more an more common. You can build the shell of one and roof it in about a fortnight for a traditionally designed two story house.

    They're also warmer, better for the environment and probably more secure than many of the equivalents.

    I particularly like how the inherent strength of the design means that walls can be thinner in relative terms, ceiling beams can be missed out etc. This means you can have stunning vaulted ceiling etc., but still have a cosy house flooded with light.

    In addition, your architect can design in any rooms you like, it just adds to the complexity and the cost. Because the panels are assembled in a factory, there's a high degree of control re. the quality of the finished pieces. It would seem to be a case of if you can design it, you can build it.

    Mrs E and baby are fine, we even got to eat breakfast together this morning :)
  • bubblycrazy
    bubblycrazy Posts: 306 Forumite
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    This formula thing fascinates me! When calculating net worth do I put the value of the house or just the equity I have so far? Or should I not count the house as I can't really use this money as I need to live there?!


    So say my number is £37, what should I be doing to reach this? Does it mean saving £1110 every month until I retire, either in a pension or savings?
    MFW - Original balance 28/08/2014 £52850
    Original MF date: 2049:eek: Aiming for: 2025 Current MFD: 2030
    Balance 27/07/2016 £49990
    Balance 08/07/2017 £47999
    Balance 30/07/2018 £44500
    Balance 01/08/2019 £40700
    Balance 03/09/2020 £37619
    Balance 30/09/2021 £33983
    Balance 18/01/2023 £28940
    Balance 06/10/2024 £22168
  • edinburgher
    edinburgher Posts: 13,943 Forumite
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    This formula thing fascinates me! When calculating net worth do I put the value of the house or just the equity I have so far? Or should I not count the house as I can't really use this money as I need to live there?!

    I count the total value of the house as a credit, but my mortgage as a debit.
    So say my number is £37, what should I be doing to reach this? Does it mean saving £1110 every month until I retire, either in a pension or savings?

    No, it means increasing your net worth by £1,110 every month until you retire. This could include reducing mortgage or student loan debts, or increasing savings, investments or pensions. You can also reduce your outgoings, which creates a virtuous circle of needing to save less :)
  • apple_muncher
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    I know - doubt that would buy me 50% of a nice 2 bed terrace where we used to stay in Bromley :eek:

    I wandered past an estate agents in a suburb of Bromley this afternoon and, for once, looked at the prices. Then walked on rather quickly! Admittedly semis, but between 600 and 800k. Shame I do not live in that area, and own one of those properties!
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  • If you did, what size would your mortgage be?
    Mortgage at 01.01.14 £119,481.83:eek: today £0 Emergency fund £5.5/5.5k & £200/200 cash.:jWeight 24/02/19 14st 7lb now 12st determined to stop defining myself by my mistakes. Progress not perfection.:T100%through my 1% mortgage challenge. 100% through my pb challenge.
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