Anyone got a Mutsy buggy / pushchair?

alison6692

Hello

I am interested to know what people think of them as I really fancy one.

Thanks in advance :j

Alison x

alison6692

Shameless bounce x

Thanks Alison x

tieg3

I don't really know much about this pushchair nor which model your after. it is a goodlooking p/c and I remember looking at it wen preggers wiv my youngest.
I found this review on it tho
http://www.babyworld.co.uk/information/reviews/product.asp?id=326

hope it helps

alison6692

Thanks for this - I have heard mixed reviews of the urban rider. I think I want the 4 or 3 rider.

Its the flat car seat that has sold me really. I am gutted as the new which? report reviews loads of prams but not the mutsy.

Many Thanks for the link.

Alison x

tieg3

Jane also do a lie flat car seat if that helps.
To be honest I worked at a baby shop and have been on several carseat training courses and theres nothing wrong with a normal carseat as long as the baby is'nt left in it for hours and should have periods of time being out of it to stretch. There is no peadiactric evidence to show of any damage/abnormalities from the use of carseats.
If your going into town shopping and you know your gonna be a while then take baby out of carseat so they can lay flat in pram, don't think along the lines of it saves diturbing the baby cos they soon settle down again once they are moved. my son is nearly 2 and once he's asleep you can do absolutely anything with him without waking him:D
Hope this helps and makes sense.

alison6692

Hiya

Ooh Thanks that's very interesting - I have wanted to ask somone who knows about car seats about the lie flat ones. I am keen to have a flat one for travelling as we have no family nearby. Our nearest family is 3 hours away - and my friends who have a Jane flat car seat say it is fab for long journeys.

I am wondering how likely it is going to be that we can keep our baby asleep for a 3 hours journey - maybe thats not very realistic so it maybe that the lie flat seat really won't be needed.

Do they say the lie flat car seats are as safe as the others?
How long can the baby use a lie flat car seat?

Thanks again x

Aliso x

tieg3

Tbh I don't know very much about the lie flats as they only just started to come on to the market as i left work(2yrs ago):rolleyes: .
Heres some info I found last night for my bestest friend, its quite long so I'll try to shorten it.
Lie-flat car seats are designed to allow your baby to lie totally flat whilst travelling in the car. Unfortuantely, there's alot of confusion surrounding whether they are 'dangerous', or in fact, 'safer' than a traditional, rear-facing 'wedge-shaped' infant carrier.
In reality there are significant pros and cons to each mode of transport, but recent research is suggesting that restraining babies in a semi-upright position is exposing them to some not inconsiderable health risks. Recognition of problems such as oxygen desaturation have led to the development of a new generation of lie-flat seats which are enabling new parents to make informed choices about which seat is right for their baby.
Oxygen desaturation is when the blood oxygen levels fall possibly to the extent that not enough oxygen reaches the vital organs, particularly the brain. There have been many reports into the effects of oxygen desaturation - some experts believe that it can have an effect on babies learning and physical development in later life whilst others believe it can cause bradycardia (slowing of the heart) and apnoea (temporary suspension of breathing), both of which are linked with cot death.
The 'wedge shape' of most infant carriers is considered the main cause of this problem. Because babies 'tummy breathe' rather than shallow breathe like adults, squashing them into an unnatural position restricts their breathing and possibly also their digestion.
As more research is carried out into the effects of rear-facing infant carriers and the clear health benefits lying flat, some car seat manufacturers are providing a helping hand to parents by introducing lie-flat and reclining car seats that allow babies to travel in a more natural position and therefor breathe more easily.The Jane Matrix continues to be a popular choice because it lies flat for newborns and then becomes rear facing. It can also be used on Jane pushchairs as a lie-flat carrycot.
The introduction of the Aprica Euroturn has set a new benchmark in terms of a lie flat seat that has an extended lifespan. Designed with a 360 degree swivel pivot on the base and 3- recline positions, your baby can lie flat when they're newborn but use the seat rearward-facing and then forward-facing up until they're 18kg (approximately 4 years old)
The new research isn't about scaring parents into purchasing the latest and greatest lie-flat option, but making them aware of the potential risks involved in using conventional car seats - particularly with newborns (and especially low-birthweight and premature babies). Babies have been transported in infant carriers for years without any problems and there are numerous benefits with using them such as easy transportation, portability, size, convenience and price factor. But, it's important to remember they're a car seat first and not the comfiest place for a baby. A spokesperson for the The Foundation for the Study of Infant Deaths (FSID) cautions parents, " they should remember that a car seat is intended as a travel device not a sleeping device and that babies should never be left to sleep in a car seat at home." So, if you're using or plan to use an infant carrier, use them for travel purposes only and ensure your baby is able to lie flat wherever possible at other times.

Many health professionals now recommend that babies should never be left in infant carrier for more than two hours and ideally less than one hour. Additionally, the recommendation is that babies, especially newborns should not use an infant carrier for more than two hours in any one day.

Some infant carriers, such as the Bebe Confort Creatis have a sliding function on the head support that allows your baby to lie virtually flat - these are worth looking out for as there is significant evidence to show that a baby breathes better if the infant carrier they are in has a deep lie back angle.


It's quite eye opening really but like I said no evidence.
I think it comes very much down to personal preference i have used a 'regular wedge type' for both of my children and have no hesitation in doing so again.
As long as the seat is fitted correctly then I don't think theres much difference in the two car safety wise. Getting it fitted is a must, I would reccommend getting it done as soon as, before you set your heart on a particular one as it may not even fit your car

alison6692

Thanks - that's really helpful. It kinda makes sense - You wouldn't naturally have a new born in the sitting position. I am a paeds nurse and to get good oxygen saturation in a baby you would have them flat - another reason why I like the idea of the lie flat car seats.

I haven't heard of the bebe confort creatis - I am off for a nosey.

Thanks for all your time and help

Alison x

alison6692

Oooh I love the bebeconfort - Its very cute indeed x Thats now on my shortlist.

Thanks

Alison x

fizzyfeet_2

Hi, I have a Mutsy We have the original Urban Rider, we bought the lie flat car seat and the carrycot. My younger sister's just had a baby, and she liked mine so much, she bought the 4 rider with the same carseat and carrycot in the same colour as mine! I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :rolleyes:

Anyway, I loved the car seat, you have to remember to always keep the adapters in the car to put it onto the frame. The great thing was that it could go straight onto the frame, and my DD would be flat, no worries about waking her up to put her into the carrycot.

To be honest, I didn't get much use out of the carrycot, and wouldn't buy it again, the carseat was so good with it's hood and apron, that it wasn't really needed. Although, my sister also got the carrycot, as she wanted it for her DD to sleep in downstairs during the day, and her inlaws payed for the whole lot:eek:

The buggy is fabulous 'off road', round the park etc, loads of people turn and look at it.

Downside is that it's heavy! You can fold it up with the buggy seat on it, as long as it's facing forwards, but it's heavy to get it into the car. The wheels pop off really easily, so could fit in my mums corsa. The 4 rider is so much lighter, although the shopping space is smaller. We both have some of those clips that you hang on the handle to put bags on.

If you want to know anything specific, just ask!

Fizzyfeet xx

alison6692

Hiya

Thanks so much. I have heard mixed reviews of the urban riders and think I may go for the 4rider like your sister - Do you think your sisters is easier to fold up and just less bulky?

If you had your time again would you get the urban rider or the 4rider / 3rider?

Did you feel that the lie flat car seat felt safe and secure for your baby?

And last question - Do you think it would be easy to move the car seat between cars? Would it be better to have a base in each car?

Thanks

Alison x