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Selling a flat but not the loft

I viewed a flat yesterday, its a 1 bed top floor of a 3 storey block.

I noticed on the ceiling there was a loft entrance that was closed with a padlock. I pointed it out to the agent as it wasn't mentioned in the listing who said it's something they need to clarify whether it comes with the sale of the flat.

I was astonished. Can you really sell a flat without the loft? Agent said that needs to be verified.

I then asked if it doesn't come with the loft can the loft owner pop in unannounced to access the loft at anytime or would this need to be arranged with flat owner? agent said they don't know!

Is this legal? It sure is bizarre.
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    The space above the top flat ceiling (attic, loft) may not be included in the lease.

    Like the external walls, roof (and roofspace!), common areas like stairs/corridors, these remain outside any of the leases ad belong to the freeholder (who almost certainly has to maintain them, usually at the leaseholders' cost).

    read the lease to check.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,683 Forumite
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    It is perfectly normal for a flat lease not to include the loft.

    There may or may not be a need to access the loft, but if there is then the terms of access would need to be described in the lease.
  • greenface
    greenface Posts: 4,871 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    So where are we supposed to grow our own ?
    :cool: hard as nails on the internet . wimp in the real world :cool:
  • bouicca21
    bouicca21 Posts: 6,719 Forumite
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    As others have said, it's probably communal. But if you are the only person with access, no one will know if you use it for storage ...
  • tigsly
    tigsly Posts: 481 Forumite
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    except the pad lock - would have to be removed to get in?

    My friend tried to buy a house- where this was the case - she ended up loosing her legal fees. becuase she didn't want to go through with it..

    in her case the freeholder only had to get 24 horus notice to 'access the loft..and she decided it would impact on her ablity to relax in the property..

    so yes it is legal - and its not something i personally would be happy with..
  • jimbog
    jimbog Posts: 2,281 Forumite
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    Though if you wished that you owned the loft then I would assume that you would wish to be also responsible for the roof repairs too
    Gather ye rosebuds while ye may
  • puppypants
    puppypants Posts: 1,033 Forumite
    You obviously don't watch "Homes Under The Hammer"! This comes up often! x
  • Fluffi
    Fluffi Posts: 324 Forumite
    Yes I viewed a flat a while ago - top floor - with a loft hatch and the loft was NOT included in the sale. And the estate agent said yes the freeholder would be able to request access with 24 hrs notice and also it was used for TV aerial access - so if anyone's TV failed people would be wanting access to my flat to get into the loft.

    I decided not to offer - the idea of people requesting access to my flat - to get to the roof/loft space with the associated days off work that would probably entail - was not appealing.

    The lease will define the exact conditions for access.
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    puppypants wrote: »
    You obviously don't watch "Homes Under The Hammer"! This comes up often! x

    If you say so....

    A familiarity with 'HUTH' isn't something some of us would wish to acknowledge. :p
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    If you say so....

    A familiarity with 'HUTH' isn't something some of us would wish to acknowledge. :p
    Ah but how do you know this..........
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