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Future of tesco, morrisons

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  • Minrich
    Minrich Posts: 635 Forumite
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    Tesco would rather their staff took it home than throw it . Thats what they do for 99% of produce/stock . Its only gone bad fresh produce thats dumped in large bins (Expensive) which is not sent to landfill. Stores are judged by senior management on their wastage its one of the BIG Don'ts from Head Office
  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    Steve_xx wrote: »

    It's bash Tesco year. Tesco are no better or worse in their practises than any of the others. .
    True, and I don't know why that is. Tesco was castigated for building big stores, now they have cancelled them they are being castigated for that instead.
    Aldi & Lidl have their own tricks too, like packaging their value ranges to look the same as the brand leaders. At least with Tesco/Sainsbury/Morrisons/Asda basics they don't pretend their own products are somebody else's.
    But shoppers vote with their feet. And the overwhelming majority of them obviously still vote for Tesco. Despite all the rubbish written on here ;)
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  • Minrich
    Minrich Posts: 635 Forumite
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    Daily mail article puts Tesco on top when seeing how much they give the Farmers for their milk , compared to the majority they give 73p per £1 (For 4 pints) Aldi/Lidl/Asda only give 56p for 4 pints .... Quite a difference. But then they charge 89p to the consumer ...but taking that into account its still less than Tesco ....Odd article from DM as they are usually the first to stick the knife into Tesco with any article
  • Scarpacci
    Scarpacci Posts: 1,017 Forumite
    Tesco have far more overheads than Ocado - many of those passed on to online shoppers - which is why Ocado seem able to beat Tesco on quality, service and often price ... I wouldn't be betting on Tesco to turn things around
    That would be Ocado which have a two gigantic warehouses and a few spokes across the country from which they deliver refrigerated food to people's homes (almost) nationwide? A significant part of their overheads is surely the long distances they drive compared to the largely local deliveries Tesco, ASDA and Sainsburys organize from their existing stores.

    If Ocado's overheads are lower, why are they still unprofitable?
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  • Minrich
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    Scarpacci wrote: »
    That would be Ocado which have a two gigantic warehouses and a few spokes across the country from which they deliver refrigerated food to people's homes (almost) nationwide? A significant part of their overheads is surely the long distances they drive compared to the largely local deliveries Tesco, ASDA and Sainsburys organize from their existing stores.

    If Ocado's overheads are lower, why are they still unprofitable?

    Cannot see that Tesco pass on any of their so called higher overheads to the customer ? I would see Tesco as having lower overheads , they charge the same price as you would get in their store and then charge minimal to deliver it . I don't know what Ocado do but i have never seen an Ocado delivery van in Suffolk .
  • Minrich wrote: »
    Very Anti Tesco !
    Where is you evidence of this ?
    29% of shoppers don't agree with you ....
    Food cannot be given away when it is waste due to H&S regulations..... If that is not true what company does give it away when its out of date ?
    Tar every dot.com picker as Dim packers just because you once had a chicken in the same bag as feta cheese?
    I suppose all motorcyclists are dangerous and people in hoodies are thugs ?

    Ha, 29% of shoppers not agreeing with me shouldn't inspire much confidence

    For a long time Tesco was my only local supermarket - I even worked at one briefly after college

    Every time anyone I know has used their online delivery they've got the order wrong - and I'm sure there are some packers with an ounce of common sense, but if they're not training all of them to a strict protocol, I'd judge them by their worst (because that's what you'll routinely get)

    It's the general lack of care with Tesco - I never get a pack of tinned tomatoes without at least two cans looking like they've had a hammer taken to them ... often buy bananas to find every one is 50% bruise ... And even their finest chicken is often awful - all ammonia burns, jaundice and watery


    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    In all the Tescos I know pack prices are progressively reduced down to about 10p as they near the end of their date code.
    Can I ask where you got that information from?

    They do - and those special offers result in 33% household food waste these days (after a decade or two of putting local businesses, butchers and often farms out of business)

    But all the unsold is expensively dyed and landfilled - at least it was back when I worked there (albeit briefly)


    Steve_xx wrote: »
    What a load of old tosh.

    It's bash Tesco year. Tesco are no better or worse in their practises than any of the others. As for dying product blue before it goes to landfill, for one it would cost to dye it, at no return to Tesco, and two, where did you glean that piece of information from? When things are coming to the end of their shelf life Tesco mark them down. That's my experience in my local store so why would there be a different policy elsewhere?

    It's ridiculous to suggest that their product is rancid or that tinned product is bashed about. If it was then customers would be dropping like flies, and there would be plenty of publicity about it. But they're not, and there isn't.

    Everyone knows what Tesco quality's like ... Waitrose and Sainbury seem to have quality control, and Tesco really don't

    I've bought their chicken breasts before and I'd swear they've been bulked up with water (half an inch of clear fluid they're swimming in) like the cheap stuff people flog off the back of lorries to grotty fried chicken restaurants

    Actually Post 57 here mentions the blue dyeing practice
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2048717


    Scarpacci wrote: »
    That would be Ocado which have a two gigantic warehouses and a few spokes across the country from which they deliver refrigerated food to people's homes (almost) nationwide? A significant part of their overheads is surely the long distances they drive compared to the largely local deliveries Tesco, ASDA and Sainsburys organize from their existing stores.

    If Ocado's overheads are lower, why are they still unprofitable?

    Tesco's biggest overheads have to be the vast, barren stores they have to keep open, heated, powered, staffed, secured and insured 24 hours a day

    A good online food service should run more like Amazon - a cold warehouse staffed with efficient worker bees running from point-to-point

    I imagine Ocado and Tesco are willing to lose money trying to establish market share - otherwise they need to keep tightening things up

    Personally, doing as much shopping as possible on Amazon is one of my best money saving practices ... Tesco charge a small fortune for their gluten-free pasta, which I used to buy by the pack ... Now I buy direct from the producer, over Amazon - dried pasta, 30 packs - at wholesale

    That's about 1/3rds of my daily calories costing less than £1/day
  • gadgetmind
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    A good online food service should run more like Amazon - a cold warehouse staffed with efficient worker bees running from point-to-point

    Tescos do have a number of "dark stores". My wife holds shares in one of the companies they lease them from, but she doesn't hold any Tescos shares. This is because when I raised the subject she said "No, because Tescos is a dump" so I went down the food chain (as it were!)
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

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  • Steve_xx
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    I'm not sure about running a business to emulate Amazon. As far as I'm aware they've never turned in a profit.
  • planteria
    planteria Posts: 5,322 Forumite
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    they haven't Steve.. but they are building an awesome business.

    it's a good debate. and i can see both sides..

    fwiw i think that all of Tesco, Amazon and Ocado are tapping into something very important. i don't buy food online: at least i don't buy general, week-in week-out food, because i like to go and choose the fish and meat and vegetables myself. but more food will be bought online, going forwards, no doubt.

    i'm unsure who is going to win this battle. Ocado's simplicity makes a lot of sense, and they do have a 'quality' feel. Tesco have the benefit, if that's what it is, of massive buying power and the stores which can feed the local deliveries. and Amazon have the online platform which i think they can use to chip away at the edges of grocery in the ways that can work for them.:think:
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    the dont turn a profit anywhere they have to pay tax.

    I am sure in luxemborg they make profits from all their european sales.
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