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PPC's Responding to Soft Appeals

There seem to be an increasing amount of people being contacted by PPC's following their initial appeal telling them they need to identify the driver/supply more evidence before they will consider the appeal.

Do you think it would be feasible to add something along the following lines to the template appeal?:

"This concludes my submission on this matter. I have no further information to add and will not identify the driver, as I am under no legal obligation to do so [this part could be removed where it is the driver appealing]. Please only contact me again to confirm receipt of this appeal and then again to confirm the outcome."

What do people think?

Comments

  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,437 Forumite
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    I think it would a useful addition, although I doubt most PPC's attention span stretches much beyond the first couple of sentences of any appeal, before pressing the 'reject' button, which in some cases automatically generates the 'name the driver/motorist' template.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • ColliesCarer
    ColliesCarer Posts: 1,593 Forumite
    I agree with Umkomaas that it would be a useful addition.
    It may also help cut down on the number of posts from people seeking advice on what to do when they get the "fishing" letter because if people are aware this tactic may be employed they'll be in a better positin to know what to do about it if, despite the new wording, it happens to them.
  • bazster
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    I think any first challenge should conclude that the challenge is complete as it stands, nothing further will be added, and their only options now are to uphold it or issue a PoPLA code. Any other response (or no response) will oblige me to write again, for which my fee will be £100 per letter.
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  • da_rule wrote: »
    There seem to be an increasing amount of people being contacted by PPC's following their initial appeal telling them they need to identify the driver/supply more evidence before they will consider the appeal.

    Do you think it would be feasible to add something along the following lines to the template appeal?:

    "This concludes my submission on this matter. I have no further information to add and will not identify the driver, as I am under no legal obligation to do so [this part could be removed where it is the driver appealing]. Please only contact me again to confirm receipt of this appeal and then again to confirm the outcome."

    What do people think?

    What do people think?

    The regulars have been covering this in the first appeal template versions for some considerable time now DA_Rule - you are not suggesting anything new here - do keep up!

    what do you think this means in the newbie thread:

    (b) Any obfuscation on your part, such as pretending I have to name the driver, alleging I am too late or unable to appeal as keeper or requiring more evidence when clearly I have already set out my full challenge for this stage, will be reported to the DVLA and to your respective ATA, as a sanctionable breach of your Code of Practice.
  • I see no point in a soft appeal , it achieves nothing at all.
    In hard and fast , get it in there, !!!
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  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
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    I see no point in a soft appeal , it achieves nothing at all.
    In hard and fast , get it in there, !!!

    My thoughts exactly. PPCs are no more or less likely to send back a POPLA code when they decline an appeal depending on the quality of that appeal. They are in fact more likely to cancel the charge when the appellant shows that they know the ropes & are bound to succeed with an appeal to POPLA when they quote 'no contract' & 'No genuine pre-estimate of loss'
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